HP vs HV barrel profile and 200gr projectiles

F/TR is the international full bore class for .308 and .223, currently being trialled around Australia.
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HP vs HV barrel profile and 200gr projectiles

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I’ve ended up with a 32” HP profile barrel instead of the 30” HV I originally ordered for an FTR build to shoot 200gr projectiles.
Has anyone had experience shooting heavies with both barrel profiles, and got any comments on pros v cons etc?
I’ve got no doubt it will shoot regardless, just interested in the finer details.
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Re: HP vs HV barrel profile and 200gr projectiles

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Heavier the better for mine. I run 32" HV on my FTR guns. I also have some heavier ones which are Broughton Barrels F Class profile. These are 32" long and are 4kg on the dot. Will probably try and get a parallel on one of them once I shoot it out. I think heavier barrels are more stable for longer shot strings ie Match Rifle and state team shooting (15-20 shot matches). I have no evidence to support this as I have never shot anything lighter than a HV barrel. At the nationals in Bendigo no one on our team ran anything lighter than a HV profile.
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Yeah I’m of the same opinion mate but unfortunately after a sour deal with a gunsmith this is what I’ve ended up with and it’s at least a 12 month wait for another bartlein.
Once it’s put together I’ll fire a couple 15 shot groups at 100m to see if there’s any POI change, will be an interesting side to side comparison with my 30” HV shooting 185’s
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I also would be choosing a parallel barrel if possible, then falling back to HV. I don’t know if it matters what shoots best, but I know that rifles seem to behave better with some weight up front.
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Max weight of a F/TR rifle is 8.25kg.
Using a 4+ kg barrel doesn't leave much for the rest of the rifle/scope and bipod.
Have you done the numbers.
I always associated Volvo truck axle barrels with the F-Open guys that unload their gear with forklifts.
Can't recall seeing one on a F/TR gun, but I haven't been around long.

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Here's one.
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28" of Maddco on an LNB action in a stock by Bob Eager and 50g to spare.
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Daveh wrote:Max weight of a F/TR rifle is 8.25kg.
Using a 4+ kg barrel doesn't leave much for the rest of the rifle/scope and bipod.
Have you done the numbers.
I always associated Volvo truck axle barrels with the F-Open guys that unload their gear with forklifts.
Can't recall seeing one on a F/TR gun, but I haven't been around long.

Dave


So if you've personally never seen it, it can't be done? You can fit parallel barrels into FTR rifles and still make weight. I have even shot a few of them.
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Barossa_222 wrote:
Daveh wrote:Max weight of a F/TR rifle is 8.25kg.
Using a 4+ kg barrel doesn't leave much for the rest of the rifle/scope and bipod.
Have you done the numbers.
I always associated Volvo truck axle barrels with the F-Open guys that unload their gear with forklifts.
Can't recall seeing one on a F/TR gun, but I haven't been around long.

Dave


So if you've personally never seen it, it can't be done? You can fit parallel barrels into FTR rifles and still make weight. I have even shot a few of them.

Bit harsh B, is was only a question.
It is a challenge putting it all together. I compromised by taking a couple of inches off the barrel. Peters little action saved a bit too, but no compromise there, just a but of concern we might have been asking too much of the action screws.
There are a coulpe of parallel barreled rifles down in Vic. They went with fluted and the Bolle carbon fibre stock.
Is there any benefit over a HV or Maddcos 7WW?
Hard to say, I like mine. It was dead easy to tune (that may be from the 28" rather than the profile) and shoots great elevation, but then so does my 7ww as does my wifes as do many other guns. In honesty, it's probably not worth the effort of chasing,,,, unless we suddenly start shooting 20 round strings and then only maybe.
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Would say do the research and have a good think about it. It can and has been done.
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Looks like I’m on the lookout for a 1:10 30” HV cut rifled barrel then! If you know if any around, I’ve got a 32” HP Bartlein to swap :D
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Rogue22 wrote:Looks like I’m on the lookout for a 1:10 30” HV cut rifled barrel then! If you know if any around, I’ve got a 32” HP Bartlein to swap :D


Rogue22

Are you interested in selling that HP barrel?
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I wouldn’t race to sell it. I think a hp barrel can shoot just as good. Depends how your rifle is built up. Looks like a lot of US shooters using the McMillan ftr stocks use hp barrels and they do very well. Ian Klemm is one example. It all depends on your current weight of all your other gear. If it’s got room to move you can look for a heavier barrel. If not then you might be best working with what you have. Or you could have room for a barrel tuner.
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Wal86 wrote:
Rogue22 wrote:Looks like I’m on the lookout for a 1:10 30” HV cut rifled barrel then! If you know if any around, I’ve got a 32” HP Bartlein to swap :D


Rogue22

Are you interested in selling that HP barrel?


Only for a HV swap mate, otherwise will chamber the HP once the action turns up in a couple months.
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Brad Y wrote:I wouldn’t race to sell it. I think a hp barrel can shoot just as good. Depends how your rifle is built up. Looks like a lot of US shooters using the McMillan ftr stocks use hp barrels and they do very well. Ian Klemm is one example. It all depends on your current weight of all your other gear. If it’s got room to move you can look for a heavier barrel. If not then you might be best working with what you have. Or you could have room for a barrel tuner.


I’m in no rush to sell it mate, I’ve got a McMillan Xit at home and a Pierce titanium FTR action about to land. Would prefer the HV but will make do with the HP
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You might have room for a tuner with that barrel then. Might be handy.
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