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Front rests
Ok this has probably asked a lot but go easy on me what are good front rests and where can a bloke buy one. I don't really like bipods.
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Hey Toni,
I have used bipods and a variety of other front rests. The joystick types are really smick, I wondered why I was using anything else after I tried them - allowing you to make minor changes of aim without having to muscle to rear of the rifle around. This is really good for consistant recoil, which is also good for grouping. What I mean is you shoulder up to the rifle exactly the same each shot and minipulate the joystick which moves around the front of the rifle, which I, personally, have found to give more consistant group. Of course windage tops, etc also do the same but are a bit slower.
There are some good options with joystick front-rests, ones that I am familiar with are 'Farley Coaxial II' (produced in US), 'Seb' (produced in Indonesia) and Pro-cal (produced in Aus). The first two are able to be seen on websites. Farley rests are excellent (probably the best) but you will pay around $1000.00. But you can apply the rule 'buy the best and cry once'. One word of caution, know what fore-end height minimum and maximum you require, depending on your rifle, shooting style and mound, some may not go low enough to the ground. Oh, and you have to carry the damn heavy things to and from the mound - can be a pain.
Good luck with your front rest.
Regards
Ben...
I have used bipods and a variety of other front rests. The joystick types are really smick, I wondered why I was using anything else after I tried them - allowing you to make minor changes of aim without having to muscle to rear of the rifle around. This is really good for consistant recoil, which is also good for grouping. What I mean is you shoulder up to the rifle exactly the same each shot and minipulate the joystick which moves around the front of the rifle, which I, personally, have found to give more consistant group. Of course windage tops, etc also do the same but are a bit slower.
There are some good options with joystick front-rests, ones that I am familiar with are 'Farley Coaxial II' (produced in US), 'Seb' (produced in Indonesia) and Pro-cal (produced in Aus). The first two are able to be seen on websites. Farley rests are excellent (probably the best) but you will pay around $1000.00. But you can apply the rule 'buy the best and cry once'. One word of caution, know what fore-end height minimum and maximum you require, depending on your rifle, shooting style and mound, some may not go low enough to the ground. Oh, and you have to carry the damn heavy things to and from the mound - can be a pain.
Good luck with your front rest.
Regards
Ben...
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G'Day all,
I agree in part with Ben........I use a SEB in BR and if you need to shoot quick they are excellent. The Farley has more elevation than a SEB (cannot comment on the Pro-Cal for amount of elevation range) The SEB, Farley & Pro-Cal are all excellent rests.
The main thing in F class, is so far I haven't felt the need to use the gear stick rest and use a conventional rest with a windage top. The targets are not scored so fast as to make me feel I need a gear stick rest (yet!) for fast shooting like BR. I'm usually waiting for the target to come up and sometimes it hasn't gone down! So while I'm waiting ready to lock the bolt closed on a new round, I'm assessing the flags and thinking about the hold off for the next shot, which i try to get away as soon as I can.
I also need to hang onto my rifle (Rem700PSS) to make it shoot properly as the stock design is not as suitable as say a Shehane tracker, shooting off the mound is not as steady as the concrete benches in BR (it wont shoot free recoil). But by the same token, I also believe this allows me to aim off just as effectively by squeezing the rear bag as I do in BR with a stick rest.
I must admit recently though, I've seen a set up that should allow a stick rest to be used effectively in F class and I'm keen to try it out soon.
Hope this helps
Cheerio Ned
I agree in part with Ben........I use a SEB in BR and if you need to shoot quick they are excellent. The Farley has more elevation than a SEB (cannot comment on the Pro-Cal for amount of elevation range) The SEB, Farley & Pro-Cal are all excellent rests.
The main thing in F class, is so far I haven't felt the need to use the gear stick rest and use a conventional rest with a windage top. The targets are not scored so fast as to make me feel I need a gear stick rest (yet!) for fast shooting like BR. I'm usually waiting for the target to come up and sometimes it hasn't gone down! So while I'm waiting ready to lock the bolt closed on a new round, I'm assessing the flags and thinking about the hold off for the next shot, which i try to get away as soon as I can.
I also need to hang onto my rifle (Rem700PSS) to make it shoot properly as the stock design is not as suitable as say a Shehane tracker, shooting off the mound is not as steady as the concrete benches in BR (it wont shoot free recoil). But by the same token, I also believe this allows me to aim off just as effectively by squeezing the rear bag as I do in BR with a stick rest.
I must admit recently though, I've seen a set up that should allow a stick rest to be used effectively in F class and I'm keen to try it out soon.
Hope this helps
Cheerio Ned
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I shot a borrowed Joystick rest once and decided I much preferred my old home made one. From a table it would have been nice but from the ground did not do anything for me.
Try to find out a bit more before buying. Some which work well on a table may leave something to be desired from rough ground.
Peter Smith.
Try to find out a bit more before buying. Some which work well on a table may leave something to be desired from rough ground.
Peter Smith.
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Rests
I have just recently purchased a SEB Rest for F Class and I personally find it fantastic.
I am not a BR shooter ,so I can not coment on that style.
I had a set of sand spikes made up and use a block of wood under my rear sand bag and I have plenty of elevation etc to do the job.
Cheers
Paul
I am not a BR shooter ,so I can not coment on that style.
I had a set of sand spikes made up and use a block of wood under my rear sand bag and I have plenty of elevation etc to do the job.
Cheers
Paul
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Hello Razor & Barry,
I don't think that it has anything to do with a peceived advantage - Toni was asking about opinions on front rests. Maybe in future we should run our thoughts past you to make sure that they are valid. I think its a shame when opinions are shut down due to lack of tolerance for a difference of opinion. Why do you feel the need to criticise - does it make you feel better??
Cheers
Ben C
I don't think that it has anything to do with a peceived advantage - Toni was asking about opinions on front rests. Maybe in future we should run our thoughts past you to make sure that they are valid. I think its a shame when opinions are shut down due to lack of tolerance for a difference of opinion. Why do you feel the need to criticise - does it make you feel better??
Cheers
Ben C
Ben,
My reply was to MrRazor, not Toni. and the inference was that some people seem to think that because one has a fancy looking gear handle front rest there is some sort of an advantage ( perceived)
There was no critisism on my part simply a statement on how people react to seeing ( benchrest ) equipment on the mound.
If you wish to run your thoughts past me before posting, feel free, rest assured my opinion will be honest.
Barry
My reply was to MrRazor, not Toni. and the inference was that some people seem to think that because one has a fancy looking gear handle front rest there is some sort of an advantage ( perceived)
There was no critisism on my part simply a statement on how people react to seeing ( benchrest ) equipment on the mound.
If you wish to run your thoughts past me before posting, feel free, rest assured my opinion will be honest.
Barry