Seb podpad

[Pommy Chris]

Let me give my opinion here...

To my finding, it's all about the user e.g how to use their equipment... how to fill their front/rear bags, how to handle the bipod, etc.
I have used several podpads myself, just like what I did use during the Presidents & Queens a few days ago, I did move my rifle back and forth, pounding my rifle down very hard on the bags etc, but I did not make "deep grooves" on the podpad...??? (No way I, or the others, could make deep grooves on the new podpad)

Talking about Joypod, there are some differences between the old ones and the new(er) ones. Talking about the feet, the old ones have half moon shaped feet with "U" shape/profile up side down which could/might form a deep groove on the ground/mat. I have changed the feet design. The 2nd batch units (and on) now have flat-wide feet, which is impossible to form a deep groove on any surfaces including on the podpad.

Talking about Podpad, on the new ones, we put additional layer of fabric under the neophrene inside so that the sand wouldn't go in between the very top layer and the the neophrene. This also means that the neophrene inside can't be removed/peeled off.

So probably you or the others are referring to the old Joypods and Podpads...???

Another thing - just for example...
Talking about "no metallic" material should be put inside the bag, how do you determine all shooters have done the right thing?... Talking about the rifle stock / forearm must be easily lifted out off the front bag, how do you determine all shooters have done the right thing or already complied with the rules?... Talking about the feet of the bipods, etc, why there are other bipods with sharp "blade-type" feet which would easily form deep grooves to aid tracking? Or with the ones with rails?... Talking about maximum bullet energy down the range, how do you know all shooters have done it correctly?.. .... and so on.... Unless you check ALL the things before the match, that's really ALL DEPEND ON the shooters, on their own honor & responsibility!

That's why I say "it's all about the user".
(I am sorry if my English does not fit, I don't speak English very well).

My point is, everyone can make / effort every thing, AS LONG as it is compliant with the rules. NO cheating etc.

I have tried to produce rests, bipods, bags that work and to be as legal or compliant with the rules as possible.
In case/ when someone use it "improperly?" (not sure with correct term?), it's not my responsibility I believe.

seb.

Seb please dont misunderstand me no offense meant, I personally have nothing against your front pod pads. Mine makes grooves, maybe the pads have changed since I bought mine. My Joypod have the later feet too, but I dont think it is a shooting aid (the grooves). I just want to make sure I am within the rules I was just repeating what I was told re complaints.
Pod pads are not something I have given a lot of time too, my comments were just a passing comment re what I heard in the last days and before when I first use mine ages ago. Have a word with those making the rules, I dont know enough about it, I just want to shoot
Kind regards
Chris

[seb]

Hi Chris,
It's just interesting to hear about the issue/complaints because I've never heard or read the same issue or complaints about podpad that makes deep grooves in other countries.
It was pure my own thought from the very beginning to design the podpad and to not form grooves under the feet.
That was why I add a layer of neophrene inside. That was also why the feet of the Joypod ride on the middle part, not in between the partitions.
Just like my rests and bipod, I did also seek opinions/inputs from others when I was designing the podpad. I wouldn't make a gimmick, or an item that is not compliant with the rules, or an item that does not work, or "a so so" product.
I don't like rumors myself, I like facts.
Cheers,
seb.

[Pommy Chris]

Hi Chris,
It's just interesting to hear about the issue/complaints because I've never heard or read the same issue or complaints about podpad that makes deep grooves in other countries.
It was pure my own thought from the very beginning to design the podpad and to not form grooves under the feet.
That was why I add a layer of neophrene inside. That was also why the feet of the Joypod ride on the middle part, not in between the partitions.
Just like my rests and bipod, I did also seek opinions/inputs from others when I was designing the podpad. I wouldn't make a gimmick, or an item that is not compliant with the rules, or an item that does not work, or "a so so" product.
I don't like rumors myself, I like facts.
Cheers,
seb.

Hi Seb,
I have the greatest respect for you and your products and I know you back them up fully. When I used my pod pad some indents did form despite the neoprene enough to aid tracking in my opinion so looking at the rules (front support must be flat and not have indents to aid tracking or words to that effect) I decided best not to get used to the pad until a ruling one way or the other was made. Then at the Queens Bob Peterson was talking about making them illegal, he was talking to someone who was using one, he said there have been complaints. Have a word with Bob, I know nothing about ftr ruling, if they are not banned I will use mine, if they are I wont. I never intended to start any rumor, or upset anyone, I just made a passing comment about something I was very interested in as it affected me too ie whether I could use my pod pads or not.. I kind of wish I had not posted in the first place, I really though this was already common knowledge, it really was just a passing comment. I reiterate though I know nothing more speak to those making the rules in Aus, I would like to know either way too.
All the best
Chris

[seb]

Understood.
All the best,
seb.

[v63800]

hi guys
a bit of banter here on the subject and probably a bit off track to the original question about filling.
i,m just struggling with getting the pad to have an even consistent thickness without it blowing out and i'd be a happy man, not sure how you would get any grooving with what I've tried.
thanks seb for the earlier input, bipod and bigffot bag are working awesome.

cheers

[mike H]

Originally,when the Joypod and mat were first available,I decided that the mat was designed to have grooves from the Joypod feet and therefore was a tracking aid.Reading about this for a while,I decided that I was wrong.At the President's match a while back,I was fortunate enough to be on the same board as Seb,I looked at things as he was shooting and could see no sign of grooves or tracking on the mat.I will say that in my opinion,Seb's rifle/ammo combination was as good or better than any of the FTR rifles in the match.After being loaned a Joypod,though with a rubber and carpet mat,I have decided to buy one.
Mike.

[jasmay]

Id have to agree with Seb and Mike, I use the pod pad and it in no way tracks the rifle exactly, I have to push the rifle manually back over after every shot, this can be seen in a couple of Vids of myself shooting too.

I'd also argue some bipods make tracks in the mound if not shot on a mat of some form, where do we draw the line? if you use skinny enough feet, such are available on some of the US made bipods they will cut a track in a carpet covered mat if you run it back and forth enough....

[johnk]

Iwhere do we draw the line?

Where the man who makes the rules tells you?

[jasmay]

Iwhere do we draw the line?

Where the man who makes the rules tells you?

Get him in here then john.... we need a line STAT...