Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

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Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#1 Postby ajvanwyk » Sun May 21, 2023 5:32 pm

Dear all,

I've been thinking about this topic for quite some time now and am of the belief that the only way to improve participation in our sport is to reduce energy limits. Too many new shooters are trying to chase success by requiring the fastest and best of everything in order to WIN, forgetting technical skills along the way....

We should have an upper limit of nothing more than 6mm to really level the playing field... maybe even go back to issued ammo.

Let's discuss...
Albert
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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#2 Postby Matt P » Sun May 21, 2023 5:34 pm

Sounds like a great idea, more details please.

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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#3 Postby jasmay » Sun May 21, 2023 5:50 pm

6mm is a bit restrictive, but I get the intent.

6.5mm maybe?

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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#4 Postby Barry Davies » Sun May 21, 2023 5:58 pm

Are you talking about FO or all disciplines?

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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#5 Postby jasmay » Sun May 21, 2023 6:04 pm

Barry Davies wrote:Are you talking about FO or all disciplines?


I’d assume all, given the “sport” comment… otherwise it would just say f-open

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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#6 Postby Barry Davies » Sun May 21, 2023 6:10 pm

What figure for energy did you have in mind Albert?

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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#7 Postby Weairy » Sun May 21, 2023 6:45 pm

I’m assuming satire?
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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#8 Postby macguru » Sun May 21, 2023 6:54 pm

I think we should make the targets bigger .... they are too small.

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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#9 Postby Weairy » Sun May 21, 2023 7:00 pm

Just get rid of rear bags. Factory rifles only. 9 power scope limits. No rebarrel. No tuners.
Seems to be the answer everyone has for levelling Sporting Hunter, so if we want to create a level playing field and promote fundamentals again, why not just apply it to the whole sport while we’re at it?
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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#10 Postby Aubrey » Sun May 21, 2023 7:49 pm

My view is that we already cater for all aspirational shooters and, with some refinement, we can make the options for new entrants simpler and clearer. It would be hard to measure whether an arbitrary calibre/energy ceiling would enhance or reduce aspirational members across a variety classes; it could be argued either away with no real evidence, other than anecdote.

I am strongly of the opinion (and not alone on this viewpoint) that we have too many overlapping classes (and grades) without very clear and distinct differentiators between them. This is hopefully something that will be actively debated within the NRAA in order to broaden the appeal of our sport to a wide variety of new members.
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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#11 Postby Tim N » Sun May 21, 2023 8:20 pm

I have thought a 6mm division would be great but the issue I see is our membership isn’t big enough to fit in another discipline.
F standard expanded to include 6BR ?
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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#12 Postby Weairy » Sun May 21, 2023 8:32 pm

Tim N wrote:F standard expanded to include 6BR ?


That was tabled a few years back and squashed.
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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#13 Postby shadow » Sun May 21, 2023 9:18 pm

Oh hell, why so big,make it the 5.56 NATO round,im in.

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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#14 Postby OuttaAmmo » Sun May 21, 2023 9:28 pm

No.

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Re: Should we reduce Energy Limits ?

#15 Postby AlanF » Sun May 21, 2023 9:30 pm

ajvanwyk wrote:Dear all,

I've been thinking about this topic for quite some time now and am of the belief that the only way to improve participation in our sport is to reduce energy limits. Too many new shooters are trying to chase success by requiring the fastest and best of everything in order to WIN, forgetting technical skills along the way....

We should have an upper limit of nothing more than 6mm to really level the playing field... maybe even go back to issued ammo.

Let's discuss...

Should have posted this 1 month and 20 days earlier Albert. :D


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