F-Class will never grow

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Toe Cutter
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F-Class will never grow

#1 Postby Toe Cutter » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:23 pm

When you can’t even get an F-Class rifle to shoot…
Sweet Jesus - how hard could this be?

“I’ll check it out and get back to you mate” ….

Then never hear from them again… like WTF?

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Re: F-Class will never grow

#2 Postby cheech » Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:52 pm

Not too sure how to answer this but I’ll give it a go

Good Fclass rifles are rare to buy ready to go , usually it needs to be built from carefully selected components and can take up to 2 years depending on availability of parts , and gunsmith availability. Patience is required most cases .

Hopefully we see you on the mound
Cheers

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Re: F-Class will never grow

#3 Postby macguru » Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:05 pm

Take up sporter hunter
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Re: F-Class will never grow

#4 Postby Cyrus » Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:45 pm

VRA has Howa 308 barreled actions for $599 (also have 6mm & 6.5mm creedmoors)
Howa stock for $550
20MOA rail $120
Get a madco barrel for around $1100
Seen a Sightron 10-50 scope on here for about $1400
Fclass rifle for under $4k
Just need to be willing to look, start cheap and upgrade along the way
Or they have BERGARA PREMIER SHORT ACTION 308 for $1850 but would need to get a stock made

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Re: F-Class will never grow

#5 Postby macguru » Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:45 pm

Or they have BERGARA PREMIER SHORT ACTION 308 for $1850 but would need to get a stock made
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they are just remington clones, you could buy an mdt stock from cleavers
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Re: F-Class will never grow

#6 Postby Toe Cutter » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:52 pm

cheech wrote:Not too sure how to answer this but I’ll give it a go

Good Fclass rifles are rare to buy ready to go , usually it needs to be built from carefully selected components and can take up to 2 years depending on availability of parts , and gunsmith availability. Patience is required most cases .

Hopefully we see you on the mound
Cheers


I don’t mind waiting Chechen but i can’t even get started…

They are all like - I’ll call you back mate - then thats the last you hear of them - like wtf :shock:
The only guy that rang back and had a good chat to was from WA - but he wasn’t going to buy in any parts because he’s not sure he’ll even have a business after the new Labor Gun Laws that they are pushing through…

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Re: F-Class will never grow

#7 Postby Toe Cutter » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:54 pm

macguru wrote:Take up sporter hunter


Already shooting it and was hoping to go up to F/Class Standard…

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Re: F-Class will never grow

#8 Postby Toe Cutter » Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:03 pm

Cyrus wrote:VRA has Howa 308 barreled actions for $599 (also have 6mm & 6.5mm creedmoors)
Howa stock for $550
20MOA rail $120
Get a madco barrel for around $1100
Seen a Sightron 10-50 scope on here for about $1400
Fclass rifle for under $4k
Just need to be willing to look, start cheap and upgrade along the way
Or they have BERGARA PREMIER SHORT ACTION 308 for $1850 but would need to get a stock made


Buy once - Cry Once

Borden Action with BixNandy
Brux Barrel
Open on Stock

Already shooting Savage Elite Precision in 6.5
Lithgow Woomera in 6.5

Both great shooters but in different weight categories

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Re: F-Class will never grow

#9 Postby macguru » Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:07 pm

Toe Cutter wrote:
macguru wrote:Take up sporter hunter


Already shooting it and was hoping to go up to F/Class Standard…



up, or across ? SH is a little harder to shoot (hold) but the bar is lower on wind reading .... I dont think F class is necessarily 'up'
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Re: F-Class will never grow

#10 Postby Barossa_222 » Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:09 am

If you want to build any kind of standard/FTR/Open gun its going to a minimum 12 months at the moment. There is a Bat advertised on here set up for open ready to go. The money is right and the gun is a performer. Cheapest and quickest way into it.

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Re: F-Class will never grow

#11 Postby Toe Cutter » Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:09 pm

Barossa_222 wrote:If you want to build any kind of standard/FTR/Open gun its going to a minimum 12 months at the moment. There is a Bat advertised on here set up for open ready to go. The money is right and the gun is a performer. Cheapest and quickest way into it.


Its an open rifle - im not wanting to go into Class Wars - the “person” with the deepest pockets wins

F/Standard , every rifle and bulllet is basically the same - so shooting and reloading skills win

Anyways

Everyone has proved what im saying about F Class - you can’t get a gun for 12 to 24 months

How can you grow a sport when the up and coming marksmen can’t get a Rifle ???

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Re: F-Class will never grow

#12 Postby macguru » Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:27 pm

Almost everybody in Sydney has a great F standard 308. Alot of them are chambered by a couple of well known gunsmiths. They shoot x's. The guy that wins F standard has better wind reading skills and the self control to wait until the wind is steady. So its a skill thing . They have all paid 5 grand for their rifle, nearly all the rifles are good.
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Re: F-Class will never grow

#13 Postby Cyrus » Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:35 pm

I bought my 12yo daughter an Omark model 44 223 for $1000 with a 12-42x56 nightforce benchrest scope on it, sold the scope for $800 and put a Sightron SIII PLR 10-50X60 on it that cost me $2300, total cost of her rifle was $2500
I spent time doing load development with Berger 80.5gr pills.
You don’t need to spend $5K plus to get a F-std rifle that shoots well
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Re: F-Class will never grow

#14 Postby Barossa_222 » Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:33 pm

Toe Cutter wrote:
Barossa_222 wrote:If you want to build any kind of standard/FTR/Open gun its going to a minimum 12 months at the moment. There is a Bat advertised on here set up for open ready to go. The money is right and the gun is a performer. Cheapest and quickest way into it.


Its an open rifle - im not wanting to go into Class Wars - the “person” with the deepest pockets wins

F/Standard , every rifle and bulllet is basically the same - so shooting and reloading skills win

Anyways

Everyone has proved what im saying about F Class - you can’t get a gun for 12 to 24 months

How can you grow a sport when the up and coming marksmen can’t get a Rifle ???

F standard is fairly comparable to open with regards to set up costs. Components are only mildly more expensive. You can shoot a 6BR and that would be cheaper to run than a 308. You don't have to wait 12 months to buy a gun. You can go and buy a Remington, Tikka or Howa varmint rifle and shoot standard with that like I did when I started. I used a sporterised Omark off a harris bipod and bought factory NRAA ammo.
If you are talking about competing with the best, then that is a completely different thing. I don't think you'd get much change out of $10k setting up to compete at that level if you had nothing. Good luck with your search. Keep your eyes in the For Sale listings and something might come up.

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Re: F-Class will never grow

#15 Postby Cyrus » Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:21 pm

viewtopic.php?f=67&t=16511
Throw a new barrel on it and a better scope, here are a few not yet marked as sold and depending on how much you wish to spend
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16507
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16460
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15398
Add a front plate and you have an F std Rifle ready to go for $3000-$4000


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