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This is a question for all you guys out there who wear glasses when shooting. I use multi-focal glasses continually and also need them for shooting as well. Without them everything close up and distant is blurry so shooting without some form of help in all departments is not an option.
Not sure if I could get away with a set just for distance while shooting but I would be interested to hear thoughts from anybody who has had experience using multi-focals while shooting. The reason I ask is that, in recent time I have had sudden loss of vert during a regular string of shots i.e. perfect vert for the first 6 shots or so and then sudden 6 o'clock 4's two shots in a row - adjusted for it and nailed the remaining shots in the string. I know there can be a lot of reasons for it but had it suggested that multi-focals would be a very likely source of the problem.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Regards..........Jeff. Roberts.

Like you I wear glasses as well and with aging eyes I don't have the range of focus I once had.
I stick with single vision lenses for shooting, but the vertical issues you had are most likely something else unless you had either a very out of focus target or reticle image.

If you had reasonable focus I doubt it was the glasses you were wearing as everything image-wise has been taken care of by scope prior to it reaching your eyes.

Parallax and a shift in position could cause vertical shifts as well. The joys of shooting - eliminating the variables...

Double post.

Hi Jeff
I have multifocals and the best advice I can offer is get your gun set up etc, then jam the glasses right to the bridge of your nose settle them in tight and then whack on your ear muffs this should tighten the whole thing up.
It works for me ( big deal ) but try it you might be happy, it stops you looking through more than one zone of the glasses. ( consistency )

Gadget

Thanks guys. Not totally blaming the glasses for the vert issues but it is something that other Club members are sure is the problem. I know for a fact that the glasses do move on my nose as a result of recoil etc and periodically I push them back ( but not religiously ) so my thoughts were that perhaps they move enough for me to be looking through a different part of the lens thus changing the angle of refraction ?? - Don't know - But it sounds good !!
Gadget - will try the suggested method and, if necessary, apply a small tape across the bridge to make sure they stay put.

Thanks for the ideas......Regards............Jeff.

Hi Jeff,

I wear glasses. My eyes are still soft enough not to need multi focals (the time will come) but I know exactly what you mean about them moving around, especially in the sun with a sweaty face.
The other thought is that glasses are designed for the eye to focus through the middle of the lens and so when your prone, looking up and using the extremity of the lens, the lens correction is not at its best.

I think finding a comforatble position that lets us look through the lens centre is important. And I have thought about using one of those elastic straps that slides over the arm ends and shortening it to keep the specs from sliding down my nose (its a long way down) and pulled back on my face.

Or we could just buy Steve Erkel specials!

I've found a lump of Blu Tac in the bridge of the specs helps keep them up higher for prone shooting.

Barry

I did something a little crazy recently and put a short to medium lens in the right glass and a long range lens in the left. A bit tricky to get used to but really loved it with a bit of practice. Could probably send you around the bend though (thats my excuse anyway)

Thanks guys for taking the time to discuss it.

Barry - hadn't thought of Blu-tac but will put that in the memory bank to try next week as well.

Denis - Had planned to do something similar. I know you can get straps so that glasses hang around your neck when not in use but will chase up an elasticised version - otherwise might try a bit of hat elastic for a test run. Reckon this should hold them high so that I am not looking through the edge of the glass which is what I suspect is happening.

Dave - last week I tried my old set of glasses which are still fairly close to my eye script. Took the left hand lens out ( I'm a lefty ) and re-adjusted the reticle focus to suit the naked eye. BUT, when I looked up at the flags it was just nuts trying to get a nice picture. Reckon both eyes were fighting each other and neither was winning the arguement. Lasted about one shot before I turfed them back in the bag and went back to the normal set. Was a good try though.
I think half the trouble is that the modern glasses are so small in height that it doesn't take a lot of movement to get vision through the outer extremities on the lens.

Will work on the ideas this week and see how it goes.

Thanks again.............Jeff.

Dave,

The reverse of that was what my optical surgeon offered me when he did my cataract surgery. I researched all the shooting based stuff I found on the net & asked a couple of correspondents who shoot before deciding to get long range correction in both eyes. Interestingly, two English national shooters had been offered something similar in contacts, but found that it totally mind f***ed them, so they went back to long correction in both eyes & a spyglass to see close up (TR shooters though).

I was surprised at the depth if field that I achieved. I can see a scope turret setting reasonably clearly & otherwise perfectly OK from the speedo on. Before the change I was on 3½ diopter myopic correction (down a dioptre on earlier needs as my presbyopia started to cut in).

John

In hot weather, my shooting glasses kept sliding down my nose. So I put on a headband then attached a rubber band between the head band and the bridge of my glasses. My glasses didn't move after that

Cheers

David

Could wear those prescription goggles that basket ballers use. You'd have to be pretty thick skinned though.

AS a TR shooter my needs are different and I have my shooting glasses specially made in Rayban shooting yellow tint with a focal length equal to my sight radius. My optometrist understands the demands of shooting.

Where I may be of help is that the frames I select have a high bridge so that they naturally sit high on the face but with enough room between the glasses and the eye to reach in and wipe rain or sweat from the inside. If I also explain that I will only be using them for short periods of time then they adjust the tension so that they will not slip.

Hope this is of some help

Peter

G'day,
During the 80s a frame that helps with all the issues re frame height etc was dev. In SA BY ENGELHARDT EYEWARE, it was called Hi Rise, it has an adjustable bridge frame, Dave Engelhardt who invented it is a shooter , he also shoots archery, He knew what was req. It is still available but now is called A - FRAME . YOU CAN BUY THEM DIRECT from Paul Engelhardt phone 08 82706437 or 0418834098 . Or email paul28652@hotmail.com they offer discounts to the shooting fraternity , I have used them since the 80s and find them fantastic, for shooting as well as general uses ,

Hope this of some help Kind Regards Malcolm. M

johnk wrote:Dave,

The reverse of that was what my optical surgeon offered me when he did my cataract surgery. I researched all the shooting based stuff I found on the net & asked a couple of correspondents who shoot before deciding to get long range correction in both eyes. Interestingly, two English national shooters had been offered something similar in contacts, but found that it totally mind f***ed them, so they went back to long correction in both eyes & a spyglass to see close up (TR shooters though).

I was surprised at the depth if field that I achieved. I can see a scope turret setting reasonably clearly & otherwise perfectly OK from the speedo on. Before the change I was on 3½ diopter myopic correction (down a dioptre on earlier needs as my presbyopia started to cut in).

John

Interesting, I like watching flags with my left eye whilst right is through the scope. I can then also see the turrets with my right eye and the shorter focal length is fine through the scope. But if I look up and try and look at flags with both eyes it is a bit crazy.