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WA Queens - whats happening with the Sand Gropers ???
Right oh, you lazy buggers ......what's happening over there ?
Who shot what with what, how far and when ?
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Brad Y posted this on Facebook last night
So queens day 2. Headcold. Living on cold and flu tabs and toilet rolls as tissues on the range. 800yds got cancelled as we got a lot of rain delays. But blitzed 500 and 600 with 60.7's and equal highest (not on count back though) at 700. Now only 3 from the lead. Game on.
So queens day 2. Headcold. Living on cold and flu tabs and toilet rolls as tissues on the range. 800yds got cancelled as we got a lot of rain delays. But blitzed 500 and 600 with 60.7's and equal highest (not on count back though) at 700. Now only 3 from the lead. Game on.
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Another Facebook post from Brad Y
Congratulations Terry Sheedy for the 2013 queens win in FO. Feel for brett Bunyan who put his last shot on the wrong target to fall from the lead to 3rd. I'm very happy to finish second after scope issues at the first range and a Headcold all weekend. Most x rings across the field is something to be happy about. Oh well it's over for another year and I'm keen to get home and relax with the family.
Hopefully Quick or Brett or Brad will give us a full report and maybe some photos.
Tony
Congratulations Terry Sheedy for the 2013 queens win in FO. Feel for brett Bunyan who put his last shot on the wrong target to fall from the lead to 3rd. I'm very happy to finish second after scope issues at the first range and a Headcold all weekend. Most x rings across the field is something to be happy about. Oh well it's over for another year and I'm keen to get home and relax with the family.
Hopefully Quick or Brett or Brad will give us a full report and maybe some photos.
Tony
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ecomeat wrote:Another Facebook post from Brad Y
Congratulations Terry Sheedy for the 2013 queens win in FO. Feel for brett Bunyan who put his last shot on the wrong target to fall from the lead to 3rd. I'm very happy to finish second after scope issues at the first range and a Headcold all weekend. Most x rings across the field is something to be happy about. Oh well it's over for another year and I'm keen to get home and relax with the family.
Hopefully Quick or Brett or Brad will give us a full report and maybe some photos.
Tony
Thanks Tony. Wow, Brett will be kicking himself. Well done Terry - I wonder if he was using a 6mm as usual.
It'll be interesting to see how F-Std went too. Bill Hallam is always the one to beat there.
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It was a tough shoot for sure. As usual, swanbourne turned it on for us for 1000yds. I got up with a 50 which as I got caught in the switch and then it just went really funny. Average scores where around the low 50s with some mid to high 40s in there aswell.
I changed loads for the 900 and 1000yds. I wasn't my happy with shooting. I didn't shoot a 60 all week and I thought my wind reading was to blame. It was partly that for sure but I also think my load wasn't 100% on tune. I had some weird elevation shots at times. For those that have shot swanbourne before, the North wester is very switchy and hard to score well on. I learned a fair bit and know now what I need to work on.
Hopefully Brett and Brad can put a post up aswell.
I changed loads for the 900 and 1000yds. I wasn't my happy with shooting. I didn't shoot a 60 all week and I thought my wind reading was to blame. It was partly that for sure but I also think my load wasn't 100% on tune. I had some weird elevation shots at times. For those that have shot swanbourne before, the North wester is very switchy and hard to score well on. I learned a fair bit and know now what I need to work on.
Hopefully Brett and Brad can put a post up aswell.
Shaun aka 'Quick'
Yanchep, Western Australia
308 Win F/TR & F-S
7mm F-Open Shooter.
Yanchep, Western Australia
308 Win F/TR & F-S
7mm F-Open Shooter.
Righto
Sorry for the lack of info- I took nothing but an iphone to perth and thems things is fiddly as crap to type posts with.
Yes Terry cleaned up the Dukes nicely and really has his 6BRX humming.
I got there early saturday morning while they were finishing off the dukes and sat around and got sunburnt. Little did I know I should have been checking my gun.
First range 300yds and I was first down. Bang. Miss. Bullcrap. Checked my range book, nope Im not going crazy. Bang. Miss. Pulled the gun and went to the zero range while everyone else kept shooting. And there I had two rounds fail to fire. Wasnt all that interested in continuing at that stage. As for the scope bugger me the scope settings I wrote down at the recent Yarloop shoot were 15MOA vertically and 11.5MOA horizontally out. The only thing I can think of is the pram or something in the back of the ute smacked into the gun box. Back to the mound and with no sighters I got to cross my toes and fired a shot..........................................
2........ Bugger, one on and a quick wind to it and followed up with a 5 which was probably a combination of panicking and not watching the wind. Got into the middle and later dropped one more on a dropoff. But 54.4 was all I could manage. 6 down after a range where its generally pretty vital to get a 60 or 59. Bob Kinnear with his 7SAUM won that one from memory.
400yds was reduced to 7 shots as there were some target delays in the dukes that morning and came in second that range with a 42.3 on countback from Andrew Lockwood. Terry Sheedy won that one.
That night I was lucky enough to start getting a sore throat and runny nose. And had about two hours sleep all night with tissues stuffed up my nose to stop from making noise and waking the little one.
Bright and early.... um I mean overcast and very hazy the next morning I contemplated retiring again. Some cold and flu tablets and vapor drops helped me gain some courage and 500yds I cracked in a 60.7 which beat Andrew Lockwood (again sorry mate!) on countback to win the range. Conditions were fast closing in and we were starting to get a few rain delays.
600yds I think I was the only one who cracked a 60 again with 7X's. Somehow I was starting to feel better and was catching the pack. We had a fairly big rain delay but lucky enough the 600yd line was at the clubhouses so could get out of the weather. At this point, Mark Hammersley retired so we were down to 8 shooters.
After lunch we trudged back to 700yds and if you have shot swanbourne before you will know the "volcano" which has no flags sitting in it and very hard to pick. Well 4 of us all banged in 57.3's which I believe Brett Bunyan won from memory on countback from Terry Sheedy, Andrew Lockwood, and myself who had a click bang on the last shot and didnt follow through real well, putting in a 4... We all got a bit damp again at 700 and it was freezing cold too.
We got to the 800 line and I was well intent on closing the gap which I was doing rather well if I do say so. But a quick muster on the line and it was told that 800yds would be cancelled as there wasnt enough time even if it was dropped to 7 shots.
So this sunny morning we got to 900yds and while I was feeling better, Rod Rees was suffering from the previous days cold with his arthritis and retired as well. So down to 7 we continued on. I was sitting in 2nd place by now with Brett Bunyan 3 points ahead and in my sights. While the early shooters seemed to generally do better, Brett who shot last showed just what a hot shooting gun and knowing the range well really can do. He slotted in a 59.3, with myself 58.3 increasing his lead.
1000yds while not as bad as last year, was still totally demoralising. The wind was switchy, with random vertical shots for everyone plus the speeds varied often without any real indication. People were holding into the white of the target and were still popping 3's. I got up with 53.3 I was happy with. Terry Sheedy put in a solid 56.1 and overtook me into second place. It was all up to Brett with a 51 going to seal it for him. It was hard to watch someone who scored so well over the weekend drop points that were just totally unpredictable. The good thing about open guns is the 3's the standard guys were getting were 4's in our guns. But it all came down to the last shot with Brett needing a 5 or better to take the wind. We were all gathered around and watched him fire and look up at the target monitor......................
And the shot never showed up. I was immediately thinking he should get down and put another down but then the target next to us called out a stray shot. Range officer was called and it was deemed he fired on the wrong target. How that can happen with a soft recoiling 6mm that you watch your shot in god only knows but it is what it is and he got up with a heartbreaking 46.0 giving Terry the queens win on 386.23 with myself 384.29 and Brett on 380.26. Bruce Piper who was a newbie to FO at this queens won the range with a fantastic 57.3 from memory.
On a personal note I was stoked to have caught up, but kicking myself over what may have been. It was a real tight competition all the way through but Terry was the only one who didnt have a train wreck and well deservedly too home the badge. It shows that consistency is a big factor at being successful in this sport.
Im not sure on the final FS score but know Bill Hallam won it and Nathan Pattinson a young shooter from Tasmania currently living in WA and shooting in B grade taking second with is 223. Fantastic effort by him. 900 and 1000yds were just as cruel to those guys as well and there were a few that were in the running going into 900 but got a right hammering in the conditions.
I ran around quickly and snapped a couple of pics on the iphone at the 1000yd line before having to head back to the inlaws, collect the family and head home ready for work tomorrow.
Equipment wise, Terry Sheedy was using a barnard 6BRX, Im unsure of barrel but was using 2208 and 107 sierras and a nightforce BR scope smithed by himself I believe. I was using a 260 improved on a pierce action, maddco barrel 140 hybrids jammed 15 thou, 2209 and lapua cases and a sightron SIII scope built by my Brian Baker and myself. Brett was using a 243AI on a sleeved rem action, krieger barrel, lapua scenars jammed and RL19 and lapua cases with a nightforce NXS smithed by Dave Kerr. Andrew Lockwood was running a barnard 6.5x284, Shaun Stoffels a remington 6x47L, Rod Rees a stolle 6x47L and an RPA 308, Bruce Piper a 308 not sure what action, Mark Hammersley an omark 6.5x55AI and Bob Kinnear an Inch actioned 7SAUM.
Another fantastic queens to be part of, everyone did their best and walked away a better shooter I believe. WA will have a great team for Tassie next year.
One last topic that is a little contraversial and reared its ugly head a bit over the weekend was the accuracy and reliability of the electronic targets. Shooters holding good waterline were sometimes greeted with 6 oclock 2's which were totally random shots. Some shots didnt register and when no adjustment was made to the scope the following shot did. The smaller calibers especially seemed to be having trouble. The targets apparently had large holes in them although according to officials the sound chambers in them were fine. But a few shooters both TR and FClass have walked away with quite alot of doubt. I will leave that one where it is.
Heres a couple of pics. Im off for a hot shower some more cold and flu pills and to think about why my gun was misfiring every now and then. Oh and to get my 284S that will be getting chambered next week and this hummer 6.5mm set back and put in the cupboard!
1000yds swanbourne
Myself and Brownie- WA captains bound for tassie 2014
Courtney Day FS
Brett Bunyan and Terry Sheedy
Brownie, some Irish clown (I mean Ray Hurley "sorry mate!" and Bob Kinnear
Brett and Shaun discussing the conditions
Sorry for the lack of info- I took nothing but an iphone to perth and thems things is fiddly as crap to type posts with.
Yes Terry cleaned up the Dukes nicely and really has his 6BRX humming.
I got there early saturday morning while they were finishing off the dukes and sat around and got sunburnt. Little did I know I should have been checking my gun.
First range 300yds and I was first down. Bang. Miss. Bullcrap. Checked my range book, nope Im not going crazy. Bang. Miss. Pulled the gun and went to the zero range while everyone else kept shooting. And there I had two rounds fail to fire. Wasnt all that interested in continuing at that stage. As for the scope bugger me the scope settings I wrote down at the recent Yarloop shoot were 15MOA vertically and 11.5MOA horizontally out. The only thing I can think of is the pram or something in the back of the ute smacked into the gun box. Back to the mound and with no sighters I got to cross my toes and fired a shot..........................................
2........ Bugger, one on and a quick wind to it and followed up with a 5 which was probably a combination of panicking and not watching the wind. Got into the middle and later dropped one more on a dropoff. But 54.4 was all I could manage. 6 down after a range where its generally pretty vital to get a 60 or 59. Bob Kinnear with his 7SAUM won that one from memory.
400yds was reduced to 7 shots as there were some target delays in the dukes that morning and came in second that range with a 42.3 on countback from Andrew Lockwood. Terry Sheedy won that one.
That night I was lucky enough to start getting a sore throat and runny nose. And had about two hours sleep all night with tissues stuffed up my nose to stop from making noise and waking the little one.
Bright and early.... um I mean overcast and very hazy the next morning I contemplated retiring again. Some cold and flu tablets and vapor drops helped me gain some courage and 500yds I cracked in a 60.7 which beat Andrew Lockwood (again sorry mate!) on countback to win the range. Conditions were fast closing in and we were starting to get a few rain delays.
600yds I think I was the only one who cracked a 60 again with 7X's. Somehow I was starting to feel better and was catching the pack. We had a fairly big rain delay but lucky enough the 600yd line was at the clubhouses so could get out of the weather. At this point, Mark Hammersley retired so we were down to 8 shooters.
After lunch we trudged back to 700yds and if you have shot swanbourne before you will know the "volcano" which has no flags sitting in it and very hard to pick. Well 4 of us all banged in 57.3's which I believe Brett Bunyan won from memory on countback from Terry Sheedy, Andrew Lockwood, and myself who had a click bang on the last shot and didnt follow through real well, putting in a 4... We all got a bit damp again at 700 and it was freezing cold too.
We got to the 800 line and I was well intent on closing the gap which I was doing rather well if I do say so. But a quick muster on the line and it was told that 800yds would be cancelled as there wasnt enough time even if it was dropped to 7 shots.
So this sunny morning we got to 900yds and while I was feeling better, Rod Rees was suffering from the previous days cold with his arthritis and retired as well. So down to 7 we continued on. I was sitting in 2nd place by now with Brett Bunyan 3 points ahead and in my sights. While the early shooters seemed to generally do better, Brett who shot last showed just what a hot shooting gun and knowing the range well really can do. He slotted in a 59.3, with myself 58.3 increasing his lead.
1000yds while not as bad as last year, was still totally demoralising. The wind was switchy, with random vertical shots for everyone plus the speeds varied often without any real indication. People were holding into the white of the target and were still popping 3's. I got up with 53.3 I was happy with. Terry Sheedy put in a solid 56.1 and overtook me into second place. It was all up to Brett with a 51 going to seal it for him. It was hard to watch someone who scored so well over the weekend drop points that were just totally unpredictable. The good thing about open guns is the 3's the standard guys were getting were 4's in our guns. But it all came down to the last shot with Brett needing a 5 or better to take the wind. We were all gathered around and watched him fire and look up at the target monitor......................
And the shot never showed up. I was immediately thinking he should get down and put another down but then the target next to us called out a stray shot. Range officer was called and it was deemed he fired on the wrong target. How that can happen with a soft recoiling 6mm that you watch your shot in god only knows but it is what it is and he got up with a heartbreaking 46.0 giving Terry the queens win on 386.23 with myself 384.29 and Brett on 380.26. Bruce Piper who was a newbie to FO at this queens won the range with a fantastic 57.3 from memory.
On a personal note I was stoked to have caught up, but kicking myself over what may have been. It was a real tight competition all the way through but Terry was the only one who didnt have a train wreck and well deservedly too home the badge. It shows that consistency is a big factor at being successful in this sport.
Im not sure on the final FS score but know Bill Hallam won it and Nathan Pattinson a young shooter from Tasmania currently living in WA and shooting in B grade taking second with is 223. Fantastic effort by him. 900 and 1000yds were just as cruel to those guys as well and there were a few that were in the running going into 900 but got a right hammering in the conditions.
I ran around quickly and snapped a couple of pics on the iphone at the 1000yd line before having to head back to the inlaws, collect the family and head home ready for work tomorrow.
Equipment wise, Terry Sheedy was using a barnard 6BRX, Im unsure of barrel but was using 2208 and 107 sierras and a nightforce BR scope smithed by himself I believe. I was using a 260 improved on a pierce action, maddco barrel 140 hybrids jammed 15 thou, 2209 and lapua cases and a sightron SIII scope built by my Brian Baker and myself. Brett was using a 243AI on a sleeved rem action, krieger barrel, lapua scenars jammed and RL19 and lapua cases with a nightforce NXS smithed by Dave Kerr. Andrew Lockwood was running a barnard 6.5x284, Shaun Stoffels a remington 6x47L, Rod Rees a stolle 6x47L and an RPA 308, Bruce Piper a 308 not sure what action, Mark Hammersley an omark 6.5x55AI and Bob Kinnear an Inch actioned 7SAUM.
Another fantastic queens to be part of, everyone did their best and walked away a better shooter I believe. WA will have a great team for Tassie next year.
One last topic that is a little contraversial and reared its ugly head a bit over the weekend was the accuracy and reliability of the electronic targets. Shooters holding good waterline were sometimes greeted with 6 oclock 2's which were totally random shots. Some shots didnt register and when no adjustment was made to the scope the following shot did. The smaller calibers especially seemed to be having trouble. The targets apparently had large holes in them although according to officials the sound chambers in them were fine. But a few shooters both TR and FClass have walked away with quite alot of doubt. I will leave that one where it is.
Heres a couple of pics. Im off for a hot shower some more cold and flu pills and to think about why my gun was misfiring every now and then. Oh and to get my 284S that will be getting chambered next week and this hummer 6.5mm set back and put in the cupboard!
1000yds swanbourne
Myself and Brownie- WA captains bound for tassie 2014
Courtney Day FS
Brett Bunyan and Terry Sheedy
Brownie, some Irish clown (I mean Ray Hurley "sorry mate!" and Bob Kinnear
Brett and Shaun discussing the conditions
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Well written, Brad. I thoroughly enjoyed your literary efforts and photos and it gives a real feel of what it was like.
Congratulations to Terry Sheedy and Bob Hallam, in particular, but also to all who endured the conditions and made a real event of it. It sounds like Mother Nature really gave you all a workout at your Queens..........which, going on my own very limited experience, seems to be completely normal for these big events.
Well done to you on your Second Placing Brad. To hang in there and shoot your way to a red ribbon after the start you had was quite an effort. Thankfully you we allowed to sort your problem out at the zero range.
No doubt you will be keener than ever in 2014, and I am looking forward to meeting the whole WA crew in Tassie in March for the Teams. Don't wear that 284 Shehane out practicing !
Re your diplomatic comments on the ETs : I think it would be fair to say that there were similar issues and thoughts at Sydney a few weeks ago for a number of people. Some shooters there also experienced fairly wild 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock shots, but as both the NSWRA and WARA Queens saw it happen predominately at the longer ranges and where the winds really were difficult, then it had occurred to me that we can't ignore that "consistency" ............ Maybe the wind just crucified the shooter on "that" shot. Hopefully the manufacturers will read the comments and reassure us with a genuine attempt to ease our concerns .
Tony
Congratulations to Terry Sheedy and Bob Hallam, in particular, but also to all who endured the conditions and made a real event of it. It sounds like Mother Nature really gave you all a workout at your Queens..........which, going on my own very limited experience, seems to be completely normal for these big events.
Well done to you on your Second Placing Brad. To hang in there and shoot your way to a red ribbon after the start you had was quite an effort. Thankfully you we allowed to sort your problem out at the zero range.
No doubt you will be keener than ever in 2014, and I am looking forward to meeting the whole WA crew in Tassie in March for the Teams. Don't wear that 284 Shehane out practicing !
Re your diplomatic comments on the ETs : I think it would be fair to say that there were similar issues and thoughts at Sydney a few weeks ago for a number of people. Some shooters there also experienced fairly wild 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock shots, but as both the NSWRA and WARA Queens saw it happen predominately at the longer ranges and where the winds really were difficult, then it had occurred to me that we can't ignore that "consistency" ............ Maybe the wind just crucified the shooter on "that" shot. Hopefully the manufacturers will read the comments and reassure us with a genuine attempt to ease our concerns .
Tony
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Thanks for the replies fellas. It was a hard slog yesterday for sure. The whole weekend went very quickly and I wish I had a few more stories to tell and photos to share.
Heres a couple more I found.
Myself being caught with the goofiest look ever. Swear I dont normally look this retarded, its the headcold for sure. Note the attire, I got told off last year after being presented my queens badge for wearing boardshorts and looking like I came in from the beach. This year I went a bit more modest with a bright blue zip up hoodie and long pants and the thing around my neck is a buff- good for cutting out sun and windburn whilst away from cover- though as you can see its only good if you wear the damn thing properly and have a hat on! Didnt get any complaints this year about attire which is a good thing.
Another competitor getting ready for a 1000yds towelling...
Nathan Pattinson getting ready to shoot- nice guy all round and his girlfriend put in a solid effort all weekend shooting as well. Both will be missed if they do move back to tassie.
Geoff Owens I believe it is, scoring for another shooter.
The piece of paper I was using to work out the scores as Brett was shooting. He had alot of his club around him watching eagerly to see him do well. Very dissapointed for him.
Heres a couple more I found.
Myself being caught with the goofiest look ever. Swear I dont normally look this retarded, its the headcold for sure. Note the attire, I got told off last year after being presented my queens badge for wearing boardshorts and looking like I came in from the beach. This year I went a bit more modest with a bright blue zip up hoodie and long pants and the thing around my neck is a buff- good for cutting out sun and windburn whilst away from cover- though as you can see its only good if you wear the damn thing properly and have a hat on! Didnt get any complaints this year about attire which is a good thing.
Another competitor getting ready for a 1000yds towelling...
Nathan Pattinson getting ready to shoot- nice guy all round and his girlfriend put in a solid effort all weekend shooting as well. Both will be missed if they do move back to tassie.
Geoff Owens I believe it is, scoring for another shooter.
The piece of paper I was using to work out the scores as Brett was shooting. He had alot of his club around him watching eagerly to see him do well. Very dissapointed for him.
Philh- I dont know anyone there personally, but I would send an email to Sarah I believe it is, at admin@wara.asn.au and she should be able to pass the message along.
TR winner was John Moore from Kalgoorlie who shot a 50.4 at 1000yds to win it by 4 points. The 1000yds really changed the leaderboard with alot of people getting knocked down places. I will post a link to WARA's site as soon as they are up.
TR winner was John Moore from Kalgoorlie who shot a 50.4 at 1000yds to win it by 4 points. The 1000yds really changed the leaderboard with alot of people getting knocked down places. I will post a link to WARA's site as soon as they are up.
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