2021 F Class Nationals

Results, photos of recent events, plan future events, let people know where you'll be competing.

Moderator: Mod

Wakey7
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:18 pm
Has thanked: 55 times
Been thanked: 11 times

2021 F Class Nationals

Post by Wakey7 »

Can anyone confirm or de-bunk the rumour that the 2021 F Class Nationals will be held in Townsville ???
GSells
Posts: 801
Joined: Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:04 pm
Location: Qld
Has thanked: 948 times
Been thanked: 272 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by GSells »

Wakey7 wrote:Can anyone confirm or de-bunk the rumour that the 2021 F Class Nationals will be held in Townsville ???

I can only say that there was talk of national teams for a rumour of a friends Aunt , passed that info onto another friend of a friend’ Brother that may have said something :lol:
jasmay
Posts: 1325
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:26 pm
Has thanked: 184 times
Been thanked: 391 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by jasmay »

It was announced at the 2019 Teams Dinner that it would be in Townsville..... I was quite inebriated, but do remember this.

Should be a good venue to be honest!!
jasmay
Posts: 1325
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:26 pm
Has thanked: 184 times
Been thanked: 391 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by jasmay »

I may have also suggested they move the date (not the venue) by a year, if they did this now it would forever solve the issue of this event clashing with the FCWC.
Tim N
Posts: 1341
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:18 pm
Location: Branxton NSW
Has thanked: 102 times
Been thanked: 511 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by Tim N »

jasmay wrote:I may have also suggested they move the date (not the venue) by a year, if they did this now it would forever solve the issue of this event clashing with the FCWC.


Be good if this happens
The state teams is a completely different beast to the 2 coach world teams so really no benefit to those travelling overseas as a practice.
We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we fall to the level of our training. Archilochos 680-645 BC
Barossa_222
Posts: 417
Joined: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:58 pm
Location: Barossa Valley
Has thanked: 188 times
Been thanked: 176 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by Barossa_222 »

It really shouldn't be a different beast though should it? It should be a stepping stone to the national team. I feel like we need to bring it closer inline with the national team structure.
Quick
Posts: 1140
Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:09 pm
Location: Yanchep, Western Australia
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 96 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by Quick »

Matty, some states struggle to field a 5 man team let alone a full 8 man plus coaches team. WA certainly couldn't.
Shaun aka 'Quick'
Yanchep, Western Australia

308 Win F/TR & F-S
7mm F-Open Shooter.
Barossa_222
Posts: 417
Joined: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:58 pm
Location: Barossa Valley
Has thanked: 188 times
Been thanked: 176 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by Barossa_222 »

I can appreciate that fully. Numbers were an issue for us this year, but there still shouldn't be such a huge gap. There doesn't seem to be a lot of emphasis placed on "getting it right" at state team events. Bit lackadaisical. Just my opinion. I still like being involved with them, just would like to see them evolve.
Quick
Posts: 1140
Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:09 pm
Location: Yanchep, Western Australia
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 96 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by Quick »

I agree. It would be good.
Shaun aka 'Quick'
Yanchep, Western Australia

308 Win F/TR & F-S
7mm F-Open Shooter.
Tim N
Posts: 1341
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:18 pm
Location: Branxton NSW
Has thanked: 102 times
Been thanked: 511 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by Tim N »

Barossa_222 wrote:It really shouldn't be a different beast though should it? It should be a stepping stone to the national team. I feel like we need to bring it closer inline with the national team structure.


You are correct that the state teams can be a stepping stone to the national team, it was for me, my point was it’s not comparable to the world team in practice.
If the date was moved to fall the year after the worlds might help with the next lot of world team prospects.
We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we fall to the level of our training. Archilochos 680-645 BC
Barossa_222
Posts: 417
Joined: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:58 pm
Location: Barossa Valley
Has thanked: 188 times
Been thanked: 176 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by Barossa_222 »

But it should be Tim. It should groom shooters for what is to come should they want to take the next step.
cheech
Posts: 408
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:10 pm
Has thanked: 224 times
Been thanked: 105 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by cheech »

Barossa_222 wrote:But it should be Tim. It should groom shooters for what is to come should they want to take the next step.


Grooming is OK , but in 2017 I saw a lot of stressed people trying to do both within 3 months of each other with all the training wearing out barrels, attending 2 lots of training , personally it’s the reason we pulled out the “worlds” couldn’t make trips away every weekend , huge component wear & logistical nightmare with everything, but if you got time and money it’s not a problem
Tim N
Posts: 1341
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:18 pm
Location: Branxton NSW
Has thanked: 102 times
Been thanked: 511 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by Tim N »

At the risk of digging a little deeper.
As a shooter you can demonstrate your suitability for the national team at state level.
If you can bring a super accurate rifle with no weird habits, place shots where asked and get along well with others you’re on the right path.
The difference I’m thinking of is in the complexity of 2 coaches, a master coach and 8 shooters all working together in unison.
This is where the beast is different.
We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we fall to the level of our training. Archilochos 680-645 BC
jasmay
Posts: 1325
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:26 pm
Has thanked: 184 times
Been thanked: 391 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by jasmay »

Barossa_222 wrote:But it should be Tim. It should groom shooters for what is to come should they want to take the next step.


IMO it does, if your state team is serious and follows the recipe needed to succeed you are following the same steps needed to perform at world level.

How your state develops it’s team to the Nationals is not an NRAA issue.

The world championships is a unique beast, and then again it isn’t.

95% of the aspects of the FCWC apply directly to the national teams and they can be used as training, as much as people (mainly coaches) need experience the the multi coach system, everything is transferable, and the coaches need to be able to train in a single coach system as well.

I think it’s fine in the format it is, it is up to each team/state to perform & train how they wish.
jasmay
Posts: 1325
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:26 pm
Has thanked: 184 times
Been thanked: 391 times

Re: 2021 F Class Nationals

Post by jasmay »

Barossa_222 wrote:It really shouldn't be a different beast though should it? It should be a stepping stone to the national team. I feel like we need to bring it closer inline with the national team structure.


Apart from more shooters and coaches, explain the other differences?
Post Reply Previous topicNext topic