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Is the Hornady 223 ELD Match an approved projectile for TR shooting ? Cant find the approved list on the NRAA website.Want to be sure and not contravene any rules.
Thanks for any replies. Brad Probert

Hi Brad. Yes the 80gn ELD Match was approved in 2018 when the Amax was discontinued. Regards Malcolm.

Yes they are.

Thanks for the replies. Next question , will they be suited to a barrel with a 1 in 8 twist ? Dr Google gives varying opinions.. I find advice on this website far more accurate.
Forgot to add these will be 80 gn projectiles.
Cheers Brad Probert.

An 8 twist barrel will be fine Brad. Around about 30" will get rhem moving nicely.
Scott.

Thank you

I have been using them for about 6 months in a 1-8 twist and have taken them to 800m with out any problems running them at 2990 fps.


Richard

Thanks Richard. Out of interest do any of you that shoot a 223 moly coat the projectiles ? My dad always did it , but I find it a messy job and cant seem to get as good a covering as he could.

Tom the bearing surface on a .223 is relatively small so the gains are going to small compared to a .308. Copper is a natural lubricant anyway. You also need to increase the powder charge with Moly because velocity is reduced with its application. In a small .223 case where velocity compensates for a lack of BC compared to 30 cals you are competing against perhaps you are disadvantaged with reduced velocity with moly application. Your group size is important. The trade off will be doping the wind better at longer ranges if BC is sacrificed. If a barrel has a tendency to shift elevation on heating with a long string of shots, moly may be beneficial in smoothing the barrel heating variables so your group size is more manageable. Moly may protect the throat from erosion or carbon build up. The barrel still needs to be cleaned regularly but in longer intervals however the wear aspect maybe false economy as the barrel has to be shot in again each time to maximise performance. The .223 has a fast twist rate and wear is naturally greater. Moly does attract moisture and so careful control over that issue should be considered if you are going to use it.

Thanks for the response. My dad used moly mainly for the perceived cleaning benefits . Its a really nice rifle to shoot , Krico action with a Mastin thumbhole stock. I have been using it lately as my 308 was being rebarrelled. I haven't used any moly in it for at least the last 250 rounds and given this advice probably wont go back to using it. Every time I use the 223 for a few weeks , then go back to my 308 I ask myself why am I using the 308. The load for the 223 is 25 gn of 2208 in Lapua shells. Dad was a big fan of the Amax projectile however I have used all those which is why I asked about the 80 gn ELD Match.
Thanks Brad Probert

might 90 gn projectiles now be legal in 223 as well?
bruce.

Yes I think they are Bruce , but have been told they are more suited to a 1 in 7 twist. Happy to hear what others have found if they have tried them.
Brad Probert.

the 90 gn bullet raises questions in the 223.
it seems a lot of weight for that little case, and makes one wonder about the law of diminishing returns.
another aspect is its fineness ratio.
again the twists required might well put the bullet's yaw of repose into the law of diminishing returns, where b.c. gains could be negated.
also precession and nutation might not help such long bullets b.c. and grouping wise.
when I shot a 223 I went for the 75 gn amax as a balance of speed, b.c., at sane pressures in the little case.
that was in the days before open and standard, just fclass, so any powder was allowed.
matching burning rate to bullet wt and case capacity, is part of extracting max potential from the little case.
bruce.