SH Rule development (read the first post before commenting)

[Weairy]

Rule 20.54 allows for a table in FTR for certified disabled shooters. This should be extended to cover hunter class also, but only for disabled shooters.

Cool, there you go, didn't see that exemption rule. I know that's the obvious answer, but I haven't seen a hunter lug a table through the bush either

[AlanF]

... I haven't seen a hunter lug a table through the bush either

In the US, some ultra long range "hunters" justify what they do with the accuracy they get from shooting off benches

[dazza284]

Before I had a few health issues roll up in my life I actually found shooting from a portable bench a handicap not a plus .
laying prone with a bipod and rear bag was a lot more stable than a portable bench , movement of the rifle with every heartbeat and breath was more than twice as bad well for me it was anyway.

Cheers

[Barry Davies]

What do you do if health issues prevent you from adopting a prone position?Supposu you could shoot standing. Is that allowed?

[dazza284]

What do you do if health issues prevent you from adopting a prone position?Supposu you could shoot standing. Is that allowed?

Go Quigley

[bartman007]

As it is all about bringing more people into our clubs, how about appealing to both hunters and the PRS crowd.

1. Sporting Hunter with a few rule clarifications on what we have now.

2. PRS / Tactical which will cater for those upper end hunting rifles, and clearly cater for the PRS shooters.

As PRS already hold their own events, it will entice their members to come along and enjoy shooting on our ranges without feeling like outcasts.

That way if you rock up to an OPM and your SH rifle is deemed too tricked up then you should be able to compete in PRS instead of F Open or FTR. A fairer comprise.

[dazza284]

As it is all about bringing more people into our clubs, how about appealing to both hunters and the PRS crowd.

1. Sporting Hunter with a few rule clarifications on what we have now.

2. PRS / Tactical which will cater for those upper end hunting rifles, and clearly cater for the PRS shooters.

As PRS already hold their own events, it will entice their members to come along and enjoy shooting on our ranges without feeling like outcasts.

That way if you rock up to an OPM and your SH rifle is deemed too tricked up then you should be able to compete in PRS instead of F Open or FTR. A fairer comprise.

Don't think so as they will not be allowed to use their mag and have to single feed .

[bartman007]

As it is all about bringing more people into our clubs, how about appealing to both hunters and the PRS crowd.

1. Sporting Hunter with a few rule clarifications on what we have now.

2. PRS / Tactical which will cater for those upper end hunting rifles, and clearly cater for the PRS shooters.

As PRS already hold their own events, it will entice their members to come along and enjoy shooting on our ranges without feeling like outcasts.

That way if you rock up to an OPM and your SH rifle is deemed too tricked up then you should be able to compete in PRS instead of F Open or FTR. A fairer comprise.

Don't think so as they will not be allowed to use their mag and have to single feed .

Having to single feed is only one aspect of shooting (the mag is allowed to be fitted). I'm sure the benefits of range shooting will outweigh that.

It will give either shooter type the ability to tune their rifle over varying distances out to 1000 yards. Along with giving them accurate elevations based on their reloads shot over those distances. More accurate than using a program to estimate elevations.

[dazza284]

As it is all about bringing more people into our clubs, how about appealing to both hunters and the PRS crowd.

1. Sporting Hunter with a few rule clarifications on what we have now.

2. PRS / Tactical which will cater for those upper end hunting rifles, and clearly cater for the PRS shooters.

As PRS already hold their own events, it will entice their members to come along and enjoy shooting on our ranges without feeling like outcasts.

That way if you rock up to an OPM and your SH rifle is deemed too tricked up then you should be able to compete in PRS instead of F Open or FTR. A fairer comprise.

Don't think so as they will not be allowed to use their mag and have to single feed .

Having to single feed is only one aspect of shooting (the mag is allowed to be fitted). I'm sure the benefits of range shooting will outweigh that.

It will give either shooter type the ability to tune their rifle over varying distances out to 1000 yards. Along with giving them accurate elevations based on their reloads shot over those distances. More accurate than using a program to estimate elevations.

I all ready know plenty of shooters that won't go anywhere near a vra range becaus of the single round rule and when you think about it it has nothing to do with safety..... think about it if the bolt is open and mag out it's safe just watch a prs vid on the tube .
And as for the tuning for range enviomentles change your elevation so it is not a constant.

[AlanF]

...Don't think so as they will not be allowed to use their mag and have to single feed .

Why not? Sporting/hunting allows loading from magazines, so a PRS compatible class would probably do the same.

[dazza284]

...Don't think so as they will not be allowed to use their mag and have to single feed .

Why not? Sporting/hunting allows loading from magazines, so a PRS compatible class would probably do the same.

My apologies I thought SH would be the same as fclass as it's on a vra range .

[majaci@bigpond.com]

FYI (applies to NSWRA only at this stage AFAIK) :
Below the revised NSWRA Sporter Hunter Rules for the 2022 Open Championships/Queens (7-11 September
2022):
1. Rifles must be commercially produced and available complete with repeating rifle. Single shot match
actions, or action only builds are not appropriate for this class.
2. If barrels are replaced, they must be no more than 26 inches in length when measured from the bolt
face and a maximum of heavy varmint profile.
3. Scopes may not be used above 30x magnification
4. Bipods must be of a folding commercially produced type with a footprint no more than 300mm wide.
The bipod must directly contact the mound with nothing in between the bipod and mound. If the bipod
is fitted with spikes, then they must also be commercially produced and no more than 25mm in length.
5. Rear bags are to be of a soft pliable construction on all surfaces (squeeze bag) with no ears. The bag
must directly contact the mound or mat, but no other items e.g. plates or supports.
6. If the rifle is re stocked it must be with a commercially produced and available stock.
7. Rifle including bipod, bolt and magazine must weigh no more than 7.5kg
8. Trigger weight to be no less than 500 grams.

finally some sensible rules. Its the style of shooting that determines the class, not whether the rifle is home made or shop bought....

Indeed, these are much more practical rules than what we currently have in the standard shooting rules handbook.
The only things I would add are:

Scopes should not be more than 26X . The restriction to 26X will see most common and affordable scopes as a standard equipment in comps.
Bipod should be allowed to contact (be rested on) the shooting matt.
There should be no rear bags at all in competitions. Who hunts and carries a rear bag, lets get really serious with each other. For club use, all bags should be allowed to preserve electronic targets and train new shooters however formal competitions should ban all rear bags. This way real life skills will be brought forward and SH class will likely breed target rifle shooters as well as F class.

[dazza284]

FYI (applies to NSWRA only at this stage AFAIK) :
Below the revised NSWRA Sporter Hunter Rules for the 2022 Open Championships/Queens (7-11 September
2022):
1. Rifles must be commercially produced and available complete with repeating rifle. Single shot match
actions, or action only builds are not appropriate for this class.
2. If barrels are replaced, they must be no more than 26 inches in length when measured from the bolt
face and a maximum of heavy varmint profile.
3. Scopes may not be used above 30x magnification
4. Bipods must be of a folding commercially produced type with a footprint no more than 300mm wide.
The bipod must directly contact the mound with nothing in between the bipod and mound. If the bipod
is fitted with spikes, then they must also be commercially produced and no more than 25mm in length.
5. Rear bags are to be of a soft pliable construction on all surfaces (squeeze bag) with no ears. The bag
must directly contact the mound or mat, but no other items e.g. plates or supports.
6. If the rifle is re stocked it must be with a commercially produced and available stock.
7. Rifle including bipod, bolt and magazine must weigh no more than 7.5kg
8. Trigger weight to be no less than 500 grams.

finally some sensible rules. Its the style of shooting that determines the class, not whether the rifle is home made or shop bought....

Indeed, these are much more practical rules than what we currently have in the standard shooting rules handbook.
The only things I would add are:

Scopes should not be more than 26X . The restriction to 26X will see most common and affordable scopes as a standard equipment in comps.
Bipod should be allowed to contact (be rested on) the shooting matt.
There should be no rear bags at all in competitions. Who hunts and carries a rear bag, lets get really serious with each other. For club use, all bags should be allowed to preserve electronic targets and train new shooters however formal competitions should ban all rear bags. This way real life skills will be brought forward and SH class will likely breed target rifle shooters as well as F class.

Well I carry two rear bags as far as I'm concerned when I'm hunting I like to do my hunting before I pull the trigger not after a rear bag helps guarantee a ethical shot at long-range .

[Mick_762]

Well I carry two rear bags as far as I'm concerned when I'm hunting I like to do my hunting before I pull the trigger not after a rear bag helps guarantee a ethical shot at long-range .

I only carry a single rice filled rear bag - for much the same reasons.

[Weairy]

No-ears soft squeeze bag is sensible enough I think.

Depends; do you want “simulated hunting” or “F Class on a budget”?