OzFclass

Matt P wrote:I reckon I can design a joystick bi-pod in titanium and carbonfibre that would weigh less than 1.75KG,

You'd only need windage adjustment on it & could do elevation somewhat like you do with a Larkin, or maybe with a light pantograph, leaving you with more wriggle room on the weight, too.

We need to get the green and gold back out on the world circuit for F Class.

Perhaps the time has come. We need something to strive for as shooters. Why would you only want to be the best in Australia, when we can be the best in the world!


My vote is for a new call, hunting out those that will commit themselves 100% for Raton 2013 in both F T/R and F Open. Like the Australian team, if you commit you go all the way.


Heck if the Dodgeball guys get to wear the Coat of Arms!...



I'll put my name down for selection.

A question for those desiring to change over. Have you thought about the compliance of the current F-STD bipods?

From what i've seen many of the current bipod shooters will not be compliant with F/TR rules.

M12LRPV wrote:A question for those desiring to change over. Have you thought about the compliance of the current F-STD bipods?

From what i've seen many of the current bipod shooters will not be compliant with F/TR rules.

Why ??
As long as the rifle comes in under the 8.25 Kg with bipod it should be OK, unless I'm missing something.

Matt P

Matt P wrote:

M12LRPV wrote:A question for those desiring to change over. Have you thought about the compliance of the current F-STD bipods?

From what i've seen many of the current bipod shooters will not be compliant with F/TR rules.

Why ??
As long as the rifle comes in under the 8.25 Kg with bipod it should be OK, unless I'm missing something.

Matt P

Have a close look at the international rules compliant designs and many of the local designs and note the design differences and the reasons for them.

To M12LRPV.
In what way do the locally made/used bipods differ from ICFRA that might make them non compliant.
Barry

Matt P wrote:I reckon I can design a joystick bi-pod in titanium and carbonfibre that would weigh less than 1.75KG, problem solved I think
Matt P

When you've designed and built that joystick bi-pod Matt can you let me know, I'd be interested.

actionclear wrote:Why would you only want to be the best in Australia, when we can be the best in the world!
I'll put my name down for selection.

While my shooting standard is not currently worth a second look for individual or teams, a few years back I would have happily added my name to a prospective list. Sadly, it is not always about ability or desire, for most of us it is about finances. Even if I was shooting at number 1 in Australia and had the deepest desire to shoot internationally it just would not be possible and no one is about to pay my way.

The reality is that this is the situation for the vast majority of Australian shooters...that same majority that I suspect is quite happy with the rules the way they are. If you can afford to go play internationally (this applies to anyone) then you can afford to build a rifle that meets international specifications. Don't make the rest of us play by those rules just to make it easier for the few who have international aspirations.

Lynn
PS some of us need that pedestal rest to be shooting at all, now I may not be any loss to the sport but still...

What do the Davies bipod etc weigh out of curiosity..for me personally i just finished having my fstd rifle built to the current rules in terms of weight, and with anything other than a harris i think i would be over weight. I think it would be great to have the chance to reprensent Australia but i think in many ways our rules make for the best competition.....Like Nascar in the states, being the driver makes the difference between cars not engines etc..

Just my thoughts

Deano

why not have both std disciplines, and give people a choice?
bruce moulds.

Is F/TR "standard" as in the same context as F Standard??


Deano, Davies Bi-pod weighs 1.5kg [if not I will soon be corrected ] I also have a Bi=pod which I bought from VRC store 5 years ago that is well made,easily adjusts, is stable and weighs in at 1kg.
Ray.

Ray,

as in ICFRA f/tr, the states and europe etc

Lynn Otto wrote:

Matt P wrote:I reckon I can design a joystick bi-pod in titanium and carbonfibre that would weigh less than 1.75KG, problem solved I think
Matt P

When you've designed and built that joystick bi-pod Matt can you let me know, I'd be interested.

There's only one problem, it will be pricey (does the same job as what you've got) and then you'll have no money left to buy the Berger projectiles @ $90/100 or the Jewell 2oz trigger or the new barrel to suit the Bergers etc etc

Deano,
I was looking at the relationship between what we call "standard" with it's limitations and what ICFRA could be called "standard" with it's non restricted bullet weight,trigger pull,etc.
Ray

I worry that by spliting f std are we going to have the same problem as f open where you have low numbers in each class, instead of say 20 odd in the one class....over complicating things usually ends up scary people off.. i understand the reasons behind what u are all saying but