Corryong 1000

Razer · Post by **Razer** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:04 pm

Alan,my 19 year old son shoots TR,he has a mat,so do I.He has a spotting scope,I have a telescope{cost four times the price of his} He has a $350 Waldron jacket,I have a $150 bipod.He has my Angel 80,gets well over 4000 rounds at 2840FPS,I shoot my Barnard at 2960FPS,life not yet known. We need only one set of loading gear for all our rifles. Brass and projectiles are affordable.The difference between TR and FS is negligable.
We shoot to a strict budget,it's that or not at all.
I am not against FO,had a go with my Sako 75 in 308W,no trouble hitting 9's. Each to his own but co-operation and constructive dialogue will achieve the best results in the longterm.
In anticipation of your reply,yes,I know I could resurrect my old Omark,change the bolt head,re-barrel in a suitable calibre and away I go.If only it was that easy,would I be competing to win?or just making up the numbers?
If I embraced FO I would like to win a range or two so I think a blueprinted Rem 700 in 6mm would be a start,etc,etc. Bit like needing a Ferarr??? to win F1. FO is a bit like the F1 of rifle shooting

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How's that for a compliment!
Ray

Post by **AlanF** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:22 pm

Ray,

I suppose I was thinking more in terms of comparing FO with TR. If you look at the better equipped end of the scale in TR, they can pay $3000 for a spotting scope, $1500 for sights, $600 for a jacket, and a good stock and custom action etc. can be $3500. A good F-Open setup will be about the same for the rifle, $2000 for the scope, $1000 for the rests, which in total is somewhat less than for TR. You might say you can still win a Queens in A Grade with an Omark, and I would respond by saying the same about F-Open. Matt Paroz dominated F-open for years without spending big.

Your own family situation obviously makes F-Std the sensible choice, but I would make the point that there are several couples in my club shooting F-Open and sharing gear etc. and using calibres like 6BR very competitively.

I actually think the main ingredient required to succeed in F-Open is "research and development". You need to choose the right specifications, calibre, and components, (and gunsmith) and be prepared to test thoroughly to get the most out of your gear and yourself. This is likely to be more costly in terms of time than monetary outlay.

Anyway, I'll count you along with Barry among those who doubt that F-Open has a future. I hope to be able to contact you again in a few years time to tell you that we're still going strong, and still enjoying the sport as much as the F-Std and TR shooters

!

Alan

ratshot · Post by **ratshot** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:04 pm

Jesus H christ can we please get back to the original goal here, to have a 1000 yard or more shoot at corryong. the range is here to be used , at my invitation (with no politics or bitch fighting.)I am not seeking permission, negative feed back or someone whinging about his Y fronts being to tight because there full of **it. By the way i think corryong is very centrally located to sydney canberra gippsland and melbourne shooters . I do not care what form you shoot even a sharp stick , if you can hit the centre at 1000 by all means use it.. love yous all Ratshot...

Post by **AlanF** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:32 pm

Okay - here's my 2 cents worth:

Would be best to hold it during the warmer months with longer days. Have it on a non-holiday weekend - otherwise it will clash with something else.

What are the options for staying overnight (either on the range or nearby)? If they are okay why not do something like a late start on Saturday (noon?) followed by an early finish Sunday (2pm) to suit people coming from 4 or 5 hours away.

I know that Corryong goes to 1200yd, but I think you will increase the number of TR and F-Std if you keep it to 1000 - most of them use only 155 projectiles and while there will no doubt be some experiences of success with them beyond 1000, in general they won't cut the mustard. If we want to shoot MR ranges we can always go to Corryong in October(?).

Alan

Chopper · Post by **Chopper** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:34 pm

Upon further talks to Corryong the proposed format will be,saturday 3x 1000yds 4 if time allows,2 sighters 10 to count,sunday 2x 1000yds, one target to be used for all, standard target with a super V counting as a V, highest possible score will be 50.10,full bore most welcome to shoot and compete for those f class trophies.the super V will be halve the the standard V,3 or 4 targets will be used depending on numbers so the matches will run smooth and quick, date to be set, PAUL.

mike H · Post by **mike H** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:00 am

Paul,
Wouldn`t the highest score be 60.10? Good luck with the event.
Mike.

ratshot · Post by **ratshot** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:19 pm

Mike trying something different another ring inside the V bull half size. called a super V , the rest of the old V score is 5 , the old bull 5 is now 4 etc. hence highest 10 shot score 50 with 10 super V s and all shot on a standard 800 yard target with the extra ring in the centre ...Ratshot....

John E · Post by **John E** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:19 pm

Seeing as it will be shot on a fullbore target, where the current FSTD centre is scored as 6, and people are becoming used to that, it seems to me that it will create less confusion, especially if any fullbore shooters attend, if the scoring is left as is, and the super V simply scored as V, and as Mike says, have the possible as 60.10
Just my thoughts on it.

John

ned kelly · Post by **ned kelly** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:49 pm

G'Day All,
as an FO shooter, I'd like to try the super V set up for a shoot. It may be a solution to allow small clubs to run FO matches............and use the decimal target (my preferred option) for the bigger matches

Just my honest opinion

FWIW, I'm certainly prepared to pay a few dollars more to shoot on the decimal target over the super V

Cheerio Ned

Post by **AlanF** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:02 pm

The 60.10 idea makes sense to me. We could perhaps also have some opinions on whether the super V should be another white ring or a solid white circle. However, the final decison on targets etc. should be up to the organisers who have got off their behinds to get this going, and I trust we will respectfully accept their decision.

Alan

Chopper · Post by **Chopper** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:40 pm

a so.lid white ring was the idea we had to maybe make the aiming better

ned kelly · Post by **ned kelly** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:46 pm

G'Day all,
a solid white circle for better aiming and 60.10 for scoring

I look forward to dates so I can work around my shift roster please

Cheerio Ned

RobH · Post by **RobH** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:34 pm

Hi all
I shot in a shoot off at the Tumut 1000 in Febuary using the white super V. In light running mirage the white V merged with the V bull line making it near impossible to use as an aiming mark. However the bull line was quite easily visible and i used that. Scope was a 25 x Leopold. The white super V is great for deciding winners but not an aid to aiming.
Regards RobH

Chopper · Post by **Chopper** » Thu May 01, 2008 12:01 pm

thanks Rob any inpute is good ,ime wondering what others think,maybe we could have both for those that want black or white super Vs ,you could take youre pick,we might then come to a decision,after all they cost bugger all and are not hard to put on .

Razer · Post by **Razer** » Thu May 01, 2008 6:01 pm

Why not make the centre red/orange and use the white side of the spotter disc to mark it? Always found it useful if the shooter before me shot a 6 and I had the red spotter to sight on,more so when lots of mirage running.That would keep scoring consistent,bull-eye 5 still white,V {6} still red,and super V white{on red background}.We have only two targets on our range{urban expansion}, a dual purpose target could be an attraction to possible FO shooters? Plus would be more testing for FS {make us tune our gear a tad better as to shoot super V's would definitely be irrisistable} Oops! did I say that? If I am right all we need to add is a solid red/orange centre?
Ray