WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

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WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#1 Postby GrahamW » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:15 pm

Looking to move to a joystick rest on a tight budget and from my research it appears there's basically only 2 choices, the Caldwell Fire Control and the Shadetree, with the Shadetree being the standout pick between the 2.

So, let me know what you have.

Cheers,
Graham

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Re: WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#2 Postby michaeljp » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:29 pm

I have one, $400 posted joystick top with threaded post.

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Re: WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#3 Postby GrahamW » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:46 pm

michaeljp wrote:I have one, $400 posted joystick top with threaded post.


Thanks Michael,
Can you tell me how old it is and which post?
i.e. from Shadetree site....
Available Posts:
.750-10 (3/4-10) threaded post
.875 (7/8) ACME post
1.00-12 (1-12) threaded post


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Re: WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#4 Postby michaeljp » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:18 pm

its about 8 years old but has had very little use. the outside looks almost new and works faultlessly. But, i had problems changing the post, the bolt that holds the post in was done up so tight i stripped the head and had a hard time getting it out, so around the bolt area is a bit scratched, but it all works smoothly. The post is an odd one, Stuart Elliot gave it to me when i bought it from him, it measures .870" diameter and about 6 almost 7 TPI.

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Re: WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#5 Postby michaeljp » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:22 pm

I just put a proper micrometer on the post its about .873-.874 so it might be that acme post.

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Re: WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#6 Postby GrahamW » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:59 pm

Okay thanks Michael,
From what I've been reading, there were a couple of different models in the earlier stages of development which vary in amount of travel & smoothness of movement. Apparently Butch Lambert made a few changes in this time until settling on the current version.

I don't care much about a few scratches but my concern would be that it could be one of the earlier models, which were somewhat inferior to the more recent version.

I may well be wrong (I've only been reading up on the Shadetree for about 24 hours), so I'm totally open to correction by anybody with more knowledge of the product.

8-)

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Re: WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#7 Postby John23 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:18 pm

I have a shade tree

It’s served its purpose and will continue until I can fund something better.
It’s way better than a Caldwell .

But has it’s limitations that I don’t like .

When I rarely use it for 50m Rimfire Benchrest I have to reset the bag as it runs out of adjustment.
The adjustment screws work loose .
I have tried various things and lately have had a good run using plumbing thread tape which now needs a top up as it is going out of adjustment again .

When out of adjustment you get savage drops to one side of vertical adjustment.

I find the rest works best when raised above the poa and then lowered to the right spot .


For the money (second hand market )they are very good .


Me personally I only shoot fly these days and also about to start dabbling with 100-200 br .
I am at a point where I am thinking of going back from joystick to a quality windage rest with vertical speed screw.

Perhaps my attention span is short and when i make a bad call I always find myself thinking where was my poa

With a fixed position there is no guesswork between shots .
Only problem with the new theory is in choppy conditions where speedy adjustment can be convenient.


My shade tree is on a custom corse adjustment top and a 20kg base .


Will be on the market one day
But not today for cheap

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Re: WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#8 Postby michaeljp » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:44 am

John, have you opened you top up and cleaned it and then re greased it?

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Re: WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#9 Postby John23 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:04 am

Yeah

I have done it to the instructions and also tried running grease packed .
To the book works best .

I just need find some slim nuts to lock off the adjusters and also I may try replacing the conical washers with coil springs or adding a extra set of washers

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Re: WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#10 Postby michaeljp » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:22 pm

Did you install the conical washers correctly? Because if they are not installed correctly, what you described, the lack of tension, will occur.

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Re: WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#11 Postby John23 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:06 pm

Yeah 100%

Checked that initially when I got the rest and had the problems .

They might be a bit long in the tooth.
I should try a new set and see how they go .

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Re: WTB - Shadetree Joystick Rest Top

#12 Postby michaeljp » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:21 am

ok cool, If you decide on a windage top, i bought a D.R Greenlaw one with 3M slick material bag. Top with a post, if i remember rightly was about $450 -500 AUD delivered


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