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king of 2 miles

#1 Postby bruce moulds » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:59 am

there was a recent kerfuffle about this, with great promotion.
it reminded me of reading about william metford and sir henry halford.
as soon as it became apparrent that rifled arms offered serious advantages in increased range, the british military did everything they could to find limitations on this.
one thing they did was to offer prizes for performing certain tasks.
so a prize for doing something with a rifle at 2 miles was offered up.
obviously many of the rifle makers of the day showed interest, as in those days long range shooting was big business.
metford and halford both turned up with 50 cal muzzle loaders, and ended up being the only ones to fire, with such manufacturers as rigby giving up without firing a shot.
halford and metford used scopes, and got some hits, but many misses.
they decided that 2 miles was too far for reliable shooting to take place.
it does not sound like 2 mile shooting has advanced much since then.
there is a lot of air between a shooter and a target 2 miles away.
in the late muzzle loading and early breech loading eras, which overlapped somewhat, 1500 yd shooting was commonplace.
interestingly, the reason many of our shoots do not go over 900 yds is that the 577/450 martini henry could not be counted on to hit targets at 1000 yds. the brit nra solved the problem by reducing the max range of competition.
this was either to do with insufficient barrel twist, or bullet shape, allowing bullets to go unstable just after 900 yds.
meanwhile the turks were delivering reasonably accurate plunging fire onto the russians at far greater ranges with peabody martinis.
keep safe,
bruce.
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Re: king of 2 miles

#2 Postby Send-it » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:06 am

maybe they didn't have their wooden bipods. :wink:

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Re: king of 2 miles

#3 Postby mick l » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:22 am

G'day all,

For those keen on the King of the 2 mile shoot , we will have one of the competitors and guy who has loaded ammo for many of the teams in the King of the 2 mile , Randy Powell at our range this weekend in Warracknabeal VIC.

Come along and have a yarn to Randy and many other Long Range Shooters.

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Re: king of 2 miles

#4 Postby GSells » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:18 pm

I would be happy with just a 1 Mile competition with .338's !! Shame I can't make it to Vic!!

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Re: king of 2 miles

#5 Postby GSells » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:22 pm

Something like a Vortex Challenge with 2 shooter teams . One with a .308 or 6.5 . The other with a .338 . A golf course like range with unknown distances. Lots of running between tee offs and thus having to control breathing and heart rates etc !

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Re: king of 2 miles

#6 Postby RDavies » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:34 pm

mick l wrote:G'day all,

For those keen on the King of the 2 mile shoot , we will have one of the competitors and guy who has loaded ammo for many of the teams in the King of the 2 mile , Randy Powell at our range this weekend in Warracknabeal VIC.

Come along and have a yarn to Randy and many other Long Range Shooters.

It sounds like a good weekend for long range shooting, pity people have to make a choice between the 1000yd 50 Cal shoot and the Coonabarabran 1500yd shoot. I would love to have gone to either.

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Re: king of 2 miles

#7 Postby mick l » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:22 am

For those unable to attend this weekends" Australian first "

We have been asked the question "How often will this event be held ?"

Talk at the moment is that we may be able to hold an event like this TWICE a year.
Remember this is an any caliber event up to and including .50 cal over 1000yds.

You seen it First at WARRACKNABEAL

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Re: king of 2 miles

#8 Postby Paul Janzso » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:54 pm

There is a new range being set up at Tungkillo in the Adelaide hills
They are working on a2,000 meter long range and are also quietly working on getting 338 and 50cal classification
That was a great shoot you organised Mick L
It was great catching up
Cheers
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Re: king of 2 miles

#9 Postby bad_primer » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:04 pm

Paul Janzso wrote:There is a new range being set up at Tungkillo in the Adelaide hills
They are working on a2,000 meter long range and are also quietly working on getting 338 and 50cal classification
That was a great shoot you organised Mick L
It was great catching up
Cheers


that would justify a trip to that woeful place...
2000M....338LapMag/.50BMG...serious LR \:D/

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Re: king of 2 miles

#10 Postby sungazer » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:04 pm

Good to hear of new ranges rather than another one being closed.

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Re: king of 2 miles

#11 Postby GSells » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:42 pm

mick l wrote:For those unable to attend this weekends" Australian first "

We have been asked the question "How often will this event be held ?"

Talk at the moment is that we may be able to hold an event like this TWICE a year.
Remember this is an any caliber event up to and including .50 cal over 1000yds.

You seen it First at WARRACKNABEAL

Hi does anyone know if this is on again this year and if so , what are the details ?
Regards Graham .


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