Moly revisited.

[Tony Z]

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[gonefishin]

Tony:

What do you mean by strange things? I assume that the gun was working
fine previously, then it wasn't. Need a little more info.

Steve

[Tony Z]

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[bruce talty]

Steve,
The rifle shot fine with little or no POI change during testing just previous to the shoot. What puzzles me is that during the between relay cleaning the barrel didn't clean up as consistantly as it had in the past and i think that this has resulted in it's shooting erratic groups as well as shifting the elevation.
Dave G,
Thanks for the email. Every time i look down a barrel with a bore scope it just reinforces my decision of never owning one. Scary stuff. I wasn't aware that you had been using moly for all this time, so i will have a good think about giving it a go in this barrel.
Tony Z.

That's your problem keep your bloody cleaning rod locked up after you have cleaned your rifle before you shoot and get it out again at the end of the shoot, never clean between ranges. Bruce

[Tony Z]

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[AlanF]

Tony,

From my moderate mount of experience, moly helped to rescue a 6.5 barrel which was coppering up badly right from the start. I now have 2 identical Kreiger 6.5 barrels which do not copper excessively. I use exclusively moly Scenars in one, and naked SMKs in the other. I can't see much advantage in the moly setup other than less frequent cleaning. I have decided that long range elevation is better with the SMKs, but this could be due to any one of several factors of course.

Alan

[bruce talty]

To Bruce Talty,
Won too many comps and set too many records to take that advice Bruce. May work in a PPC where the bullet bearing surface is around .150" but not with a VLD sliding .600"+ bearing surface down a bore and 60grns + of slow burning powder leaving diamond hard carbon particles imbedded in the throat. Anyway the question was about who is successfully using moly not about cleaning barrels.
Tony Z.

who said anything about using PPC i am talking about .308 154 grain Lapua GB491 Scenar Length 1.240" and 80 SMK .224 length 1.080"142 SMK 6.5 Length 1.389 107 SMK 6mm Length 1.260. that OK but give a go when you are having a practice if you don't want to do it in a match, i nealy gave up on the Tungstan but have not cleaned my .223Rem for at least 100 shots and elevation has never been better, i am shooting 800,900,1000 on Sunday. Bruce

[Tony Z]

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[gonefishin]

Tony:

If it is the barrel that is the problem you could get stuck into it with some JB and try again. On the other hand have you looked at the scope and rings to make sure something has not let loose there. I would try putting another known good scope on and try it again. I have never had a barrel just start spraying shots out of the blue when there have been no changes to powder primers and projectiles. I don't know but it is frustrating when it happens. Good luck.

[Tony Z]

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[Shane]

Tony Z,
Moly can work great in some barrels and not in others. Give the bbl a good clean and try uncoated bullets. It's a good place to start.
I have ran moly in a lot of my rifles most of them worked with it while a couple didn't. And two of my current barrels i have not worried about using it in them.
I have won plenty of shoots (fly included) with and with out moly. Sometimes it work other times it don't.
cheers,
Shane

[Tony Z]

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[Shane]

Tony,
Moly may well be worth trying in the bbl. The trick is to have a well coated bullet that wont rub off easily. When you get this you know you the moly is going to work as well as it can.
You may have another problem that moly won't fix. Depends alot on the condition of the barrel and how many rounds it's had through it.
Did this barrel ever perform or has it always been so so?
regards,
Shane

[bruce moulds]

try it on the hand, particularly good on calouses.
also known to reduce blistering.
bruce.

[Tony Z]

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