PeteFox wrote:Barossa_222 wrote:PeteFox wrote:Whether you have a Borden, Panda or any other modern action, choosing one over the other based on how much pressure it can handle speaks volumes about reloading practice.
Pete
It is certainly a consideration when selecting an action. When comparing my Panda FTR rifle compared to friends Barnard FTR rifles all other things considered equal, you are able to run the same case/powder/bullet combination at higher pressure levels.
I think you must be talking about some other shooting movement where safety is not the prime consideration and the rules are made to be bent.
We are talking F/TR here? and .308 win?, where the maximum safe SAAMI pressure is 62,000 psi. and this max pressure is mandated by the rules. See rule 1.2(d) of the SSR's - i.e. the onus is on the shooter not to exceed manufacturers maximum loads or pressure.
Either you are seriously suggesting that a Panda action is suspect with a .308Win at 62,000psi or you are advocating reloading practice above 62000 psi - the reason for my initial comment.
Contrary to my initial gut reaction, I do mind (a lot) if your rifle explodes on the mound because it reflects badly on the shooting movement and its safety record and will inevitably affect everyone's shooting through increased attention from the 'authorities'. and we'll end up with some draconian rules on reloading.
I am not wanting a return to the 'good old days' of 7.62 NATO shooting, but stuck rounds, blown primers, actions unable to be opened without losing the projectile etc were almost unheard of, because the pressure was capped at 50,000psi. and the ammunition was standardised. Same deal if we stick at 62,000 psi with modern actions.
Rant over
Pete
I certainly respect your opinion and whole heartedly agree that safety should be the overriding factor when hand loading. That being said it doesn't change the fact the the Barnard action is much stronger than the Panda and can be loaded to higher pressures. Maybe I've explained myself poorly, in which case I apologise. I was just offering up the experience I have had with the above actions.