TRI MATCH AT BENDIGO

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Geoffrey Grenfell
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#16 Postby Geoffrey Grenfell » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:41 pm

Yes Allan,

Camping is permitted on the range I will talk to chris Gillard tomorrow and make sure hot showers are available.

Geoff

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#17 Postby Chopper » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:28 pm

Alan i and another shooter or two will be camping on the range saturday night look forward to seeing you or who ever you can bring along , all is welcomed, new or old we intend on making this event a good chance to have a new shooter introduced to scope shooting,when else is there ,shooting against state team a great opp to see the best, chop.

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#18 Postby AlanF » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:48 pm

The Tri-Teams Challenge was held in beautiful sunny weather. Star of the F-Classes was Paul Read who shot 200.39 (i.e. dropped only one centre), but more importantly he (ably assisted by Bill Siegloff) coached the F-Open team to a clear points win. Gary Hunt had an outstanding 200.24, but in general the F-Std team had a pretty ordinary day, in fact unlike last year the State TR team finished ahead of them on points.

I'll put up the full scores hopefully tomorrow night in the Results, Other section of ozfclass.com.

Alan

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#19 Postby Tony Q » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:54 am

200.24 is certainly outstanding ... but 200.39, and at those ranges, well, thats just something to aspire too!

Did Paul drop his only centre at 1000 ?

Regardless, well done.
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#20 Postby AlanF » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:38 pm

Results are posted HERE

Just doing a post-mortem on these, its a good result (as you would expect) for the State Team. They actually came out in front with their MSCI rating. And looking at the F-Std MCSI ratings, they certainly weren't disgraced. So without taking anything away from the great coaching in Open, I'd have to say that the scores on the day looked a little better than they really were. To be fair, the large centres make it difficult for F-Open to show their true accuracy, because a good 50.10 gets the same score as a mediocre one. A truer test of the relative accuracy between the categories would be to use the open target.

So these results shouldn't be taken too seriously in my opinion. After all it was supposed to be first and foremost a fun day, and an opportunity for the 3 groups to socialise.

Tony,

I 'm hoping we might see some of you Murray Bridge people at Horsham in a fortnight. Are you or anyone else likely to come?

Alan

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#21 Postby Guest » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:12 am

Hi All,
Yes, the tri teams was a great day and should be repeated again next year. I agree with Alan that the large centre hides the true accuracy of the FO rifle, however it does give a true comparison between an FO and an FS rifle. The wind conditions were not difficult all day, a little tricky at times but not difficult enough to say that wind played a major part in the outcome.
Actually when you analyze the results, the comparisons were as true as one could obtain considering the accuracy potential of the FS rifle with standard ammo.
What I would like to see is a comparison with the FS rifle using a superior projectile to that currently in use, and maybe next year we might look at that aspect. The only problem with that is that the exercise would then become a FO/FS contest instead of the original FS/FB exercise.
Something to think about.
We ( FS ) definitely had some elevation problems particularly at the longs, and says that some rifles need attention particularly with respect to loads.
At the end of the day the sport of target shooting was the ultimate winner, and to those people who made it happen, particularly those who travelled long distances ( Gippsland, Albury/ Wodonga,
Warracknabeal,Warrnambool, Mildura, etc) I say well done.

Don't forget Horsham in a couple of weeks, another great weekend assured. Horsham have done the right thing by you, let's see how well
you appreciate it.
C'mon South Aust, you'r always telling us how good you all are. Come to Horsham and prove it.
Barry

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#22 Postby Tony Q » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:49 am

Alan/Barry

I’ve heard a few rumors of some taking the trip, but I cant confirm them. As for me, I’m unsure, with a DRA(SA) OPM in 3 weeks and a 5 day SA Hunt/Queens in 5 weeks I don’t think I’ll be granted a leave pass for another event. However, I will pick Susan up a bunch of flowers today and see if that works.

As for the others, I’ll make some enquiries.
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#23 Postby Matt P » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:09 pm

Barry
What projectiles would you like to use other than the 2 155's ???
Looking at the scores, some of them were not so good, where were the shots lost at the shorter ranges, wind or elevation ??? You said points were lost to elevation at the longs, how much elevation ?? And did the FB shooters suffer from the same elevation problems ??

Matt P

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#24 Postby Guest » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:45 pm

Hi Matt,
Cannot answer question re FB lost shots as I don't know.
There was not very much wind around all day, the most I had while coaching was 2 points at 1000yds so the elevation shots lost was not due to a sudden drop of or directional change.
For example at 1000yds I was coaching Jenny, we had 6 in with a few centres when suddenly out of nowhere came a 3 at 6 0'clock, never altered and followed it with a 4 about 4" higher, altered up and promptly stuck one over the top????? Don't know why.
Tom Lowndes started with a high 5 at 300 came down and got another at 3 o'clock then a 4 well out at 6. blew the spotter out with the next. came up 11/2 and got a high 4. Again ????? Rifles????? ammo????? who knows.
Most shots lost at shorts were elevation.
I have a theory about Bendigo and have commented on it many times. The new grass that was planted for the Comm. Games was some hybrid breed which was very " spongy" so much so that You couldn't really get a firm bedding for a bipod.Terrible stuff to shoot off. Since the drought it has died, thank goodness, but the make up of it was such that the ground is still " spongy" where the roots were ( or are )
> I believe this is the cause of much of the elevation problems which now exist.
To reinforce this, those who use rests instead of bipods do not experience elevation problems.
Re Other Projectiles. Anybody with a 12 twist barrel and using an M852 chamber could quite comfortably use either a Sierra 175 or a Lapua D46 170 gn without changing anything but the load. Both are very good projectiles and would be more competitive with an FO rifle.
Barry


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