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Re: Triple possibles

#16 Postby IanP » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:13 pm

bartman007 wrote:Hello Ian,

I notice that there doesn't seem to be a mention of Triple possibles. Is this something that should be added?

It also complicates things, as various prize meetings mix up the 3 ranges held on particular days.

Cheers,

Bartman007


Bartman, the register was put together in collaboration with Linda Shehan and Rod Davies and cannot cover every possible combination of scores shot in the very diverse comps held around Australia. It can evolve over time but its a good start where there was nothing before. I will be seeking NRAA approval and hopefully support in the near future.

Ian

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#17 Postby AlanF » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:37 pm

IanP wrote:Alan, maximum points is already covered in the Championship tables, look here: http://aufclassrecords.com/?page_id=153

Ian,

I can see a column for the points scored and another for the number of stages. What I am suggesting is to replace the stages column with a maximum possible points column, so in the case of the NT Queens it would be 480.

Alan

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#18 Postby IanP » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:56 pm

AlanF wrote:
IanP wrote:Alan, maximum points is already covered in the Championship tables, look here: http://aufclassrecords.com/?page_id=153

Ian,

I can see a column for the points scored and another for the number of stages. What I am suggesting is to replace the stages column with a maximum possible points column, so in the case of the NT Queens it would be 480.

Alan


Alan, I was missing your point and now that I understand what your saying I like your idea much better than the number of stages and will implement it. Thanks Alan :D

Updated with max possible score now included! http://aufclassrecords.com/?page_id=153

Ian

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#19 Postby Gadget » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:54 am

Hi Ian
I told you we would wake them all up. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#20 Postby OuttaAmmo » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:40 am

So I'm assuming that with the variations between possible 'max number of points" for different state championships, the result would be worked out on a percentage basis?

ie; an f-open shooter has to shoot better than 95.4% in their state championship to be up there?

Just wondering...

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#21 Postby IanP » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:19 pm

OuttaAmmo wrote:So I'm assuming that with the variations between possible 'max number of points" for different state championships, the result would be worked out on a percentage basis?

ie; an f-open shooter has to shoot better than 95.4% in their state championship to be up there?

Just wondering...


If you look at the USA and UK model for record scores, they are attributed to distance record scores and range championship record scores. There is not a calculation needed to be performed to see if a score is higher than a previous one for the same event or range.

This shows how simple the UK records are kept. http://www.gbfclass.co.uk/index.php?opt ... Itemid=113

Ian

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#22 Postby johnk » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:40 pm

Interesting, particularly as Blair Atholl doesn't have a 1000 yard distance: http://www.westatholl.org.uk/WebPageStu ... Layout.jpg

It's built on the side of a ridge & the longer distances are situated where they could find the odd patch of level(ish) ground.

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Re: Triple possibles

#23 Postby RDavies » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:07 am

IanP wrote:
bartman007 wrote:Hello Ian,

I notice that there doesn't seem to be a mention of Triple possibles. Is this something that should be added?

It also complicates things, as various prize meetings mix up the 3 ranges held on particular days.

Cheers,

Bartman007


Bartman, the register was put together in collaboration with Linda Shehan and Rod Davies and cannot cover every possible combination of scores shot in the very diverse comps held around Australia. It can evolve over time but its a good start where there was nothing before. I will be seeking NRAA approval and hopefully support in the near future.

Ian


I think the main problem with listing triple possibles is that there are so many of them occuring now. With the level of shooting in Australia now, most prizeshoots in my area (with easier conditions than S.A) is won with a 180/180.
At least if there are 2 stages shot concurrently at the same distance, the shooter can combine the 2x 10 shot scores to get a 20 shot score. Not the same, but all we can work with.

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#24 Postby IanP » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:01 pm

I had the pleasing task of posting the first F-Standard, National Record, (10 shot) just recently, congratulations Andrew on your 300M record score and also on being the first to make the claim! http://aufclassrecords.com/?page_id=132

I get the feeling that F-Standard shooters are a little more modest about their scores than the F-Open crowd. I am hoping to be proved wrong on this issue and look forward to receiving more FS claims in the near future.

F-Open records in both individual and Championship events are gradually growing in number. We are now only lacking F T/R record scores to complete the disciplines that have records entered. The SA Queens is coming up later this month and will have F T/R enteries for the first time in the events history. Lets hope some record scores are shot and claimed in all F-Class categories. These National Record scores provide a measure of how we progress in our sport over the coming years and also with a personal challenge to do better.

Ian

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#25 Postby bruce moulds » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:56 pm

just looking at the range columns made me think.
they go up to 1000m. which is the middle metric range for match rifle fclass. the others being 900m and 1100 m.
a slight alteration could be headed 900m/1000yd, 1000m/1100yd, and 1100m/1200 yd.
these m/yd connections are closer in sight settings than say 1000m/1000yd.
this way match rifle fclass guys could also be included in the records.
just a suggestion.
keep safe,
bruce.
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#26 Postby IanP » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:03 am

Bruce, the National Records Register is for F-Class only! The claiming rules are set out clearly on the home page. http://aufclassrecords.com/ I actually recieved a claim for a 1000yd F-Class record shot in a Match Rifle event but as you know they use a different target/rules and the claim could not be accepted.

Match Rifle is supported by their own National Website and I'm sure if you put your name forward to setup a record register that they would be most interested! I recollect making this same suggestion to you before when you raised the same issue about our SA state record register. You shoot Match Rifle maybe its time you put your hand up and got it started.

The same goes for TR, I think it would be great for someone to setup a national record register and start recording the scores shot all around Australia on the ICFRA target with super centre!

Ian

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#27 Postby bruce moulds » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:27 pm

ian
when you say fclass only, do you mean only the branch of fclass that interests you?
your definition of fclass seems to be only a partial one.
for your interest, fclass is now also shot with match rifle, and is growing quite rapidly. not only in aust., but world wide.
as this is under the heading of helping fclass to grow, it would seem appropriate to include all fclass with no discrimination.
keep safe,
bruce.
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#28 Postby Lynn Otto » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:03 pm

Bruce I beg to differ, there is a difference between shooting F Class equipment as a subsidiary section of Match rifle, a category covered quite specifically by it's own section of the SSR's, Chapter 18 and shooting F Class, Chapter 20 of the SSR's. If you are shooting in a Match rifle competition then that is what you are shooting, just as a TR person could shoot with their TR equipment in F Class, regardless of the rifle type used they would be shooting F Class and could thus claim an F Class record. It is based on the competition you are shooting in not the equipment you are using to do it.

That said, there is room for someone to run a Match Rifle records register, so if you feel so strongly about it, go for it, I'm sure many would appreciate your effort to fill this gap. :)

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#29 Postby IanP » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:02 am

There are new records posted on our National Records website! Three new FO records and one new F T/R Individual Championship record.

FO here: http://aufclassrecords.com/?page_id=16

F T/R here: http://aufclassrecords.com/?page_id=153

Congrats Rod, Dave and Alan!

Ian

PS We need to get FS shooters to claim some of their high scores that are being shot, dont be shy!

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#30 Postby IanP » Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:43 am

A new National FS record has been claimed for 500 yards, well done Glenn!
http://aufclassrecords.com/?page_id=132

Ian


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