Is This An Angel Action

6.5x55ai · #1 Postby **6.5x55ai** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:56 pm

I am unfamiliar with the Angel. Could someone confirm whether this is an Angel or not. If so any idea of vintage.
Thank you.

Barry Davies · #2 Postby **Barry Davies** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:04 pm

Hi,

Certainly not an Angel 80.

There was an earlier model called an Angel Hawk -- somewhat rare and I have never seen one. What does the bolt look like?
The 80 designates the year first produced ie 1980.

6.5x55ai · #3 Postby **6.5x55ai** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:57 pm

This is the bolt. Appears to have an Omark #2 Head. Bolt handle appear to be similar to Omark but without the Omark collar where it attaches to the bolt body. Gas port backward of the bolt head pin is oval rather than round. Serial number under the bolt handle in same place as an Omark. Has a serial starting with a "D" like some Omarks. Has serial number on top of cocking piece that doesn't match the D number under that handle but matches one on the action. No other markings on the action.

Barry Davies · #4 Postby **Barry Davies** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:20 pm

Looks like a "Dale " made in South Australia.
Maker used to take an Omark or Angel bolt and wrap his own receiver around it.
Receivers were much heavier that an Omark with integral lugs.
He made several versions including one that had a large square bedding area up front with ( I think ) 4 take down screws in the square, as well as rear ones.
The bolt does not look like a standard Omark or Angel bolt so if it is a " Dale " then it is a version where the bolt was also manufactured.
Richard Braund may be able to shed more light on this.

Razer · #5 Postby **Razer** » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:30 pm

Cannot be an Omark as the action is too long and to attach that barrel an Omark would need an adaptor.

It is definitely not an Angel as I can see many differences.

I do have a pictures of a Dale action, and I would have to agree with Barry that that action is a Dale.
Look to where the barrel and action meet. There is a distinctive taper.

If you cannot get these links to open then copy and paste them into your search box, it should produce the pictures. :?:

http://files.websitetoolbox.com/4427/86049

http://files.websitetoolbox.com/4427/86047

tonic4u · #6 Postby **tonic4u** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:11 am

Intriguing question; Bernie Dalton the maker of the Dale rifle action was ever experimenting, and as Barry Davies suggested created several variations which relied on a donor Omark bolt or in some cases a proprietary one piece bolt. However, I have not seen an example such as this; Bernie Dalton is a club mate of mine and I have owned 4 Dale actions and seen many more, none of which resemble this particular action. My guess is that this is a bespoke rifle action made by a home enthusiast with an adapted Omark bolt. Tim

Macca · #7 Postby **Macca** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:51 am

Whats it registered as

Barry Davies · #8 Postby **Barry Davies** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:10 pm

Yes, intriguing.
The bolt is not an Omark as the omark had a slot cut almost full length for the bolt stop lever.
Bolt handle looks like an Omark but without the extra shroud for silver soldering. And this one is bolted on.
Cocking piece Shroud is also different to Omark.
Hybrid of some sort.

6.5x55ai · #9 Postby **6.5x55ai** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:14 pm

Thanks for the help to date.

Bolt handle appears to be silver soldered on plus the screw. Apparently it has a very large unusual bedding lug. The cocking shroud/piece seem to be the most different aspect to an Omark bolt. The action displays machining marks and is also as hard as hell.

The rifle belongs to a mate. I will attempt to get some more photos with it removed from the stock. I did tell him that I knew of an excellent forum where I was guaranteed to get an accurate identification. :wink:

6.5x55ai · #10 Postby **6.5x55ai** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:15 pm

Macca wrote:Whats it registered as

The rifle is in NZ so not subject to registration........yet

tonic4u · #11 Postby **tonic4u** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:28 pm

Ok; still intrigued! I have a number of Dale Match actions which have a large forward recoil lugg with 4 bedding screws and another bedding screw at the rear of the action, but as I said earlier they don't resemble this action and bolt. Would like to see a side and base/underside view of the action.
Tim

Triplejim · #12 Postby **Triplejim** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:02 pm

If NZ, could be a Bevan action

6.5x55ai · #13 Postby **6.5x55ai** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:27 am

More pics. The rifle was bought along with an Omark at an Auction. The Omark was listed as an "Omark" but the other was just listed as a "Target Rifle".
The Omark and this rifle have similar triggers which may be NZ made "Kiwi" triggers (Ken Meade?)

6.5x55ai · #14 Postby **6.5x55ai** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:08 am

Any further ideas guys?
Many thanks.

Cameron Mc · #15 Postby **Cameron Mc** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:59 am

One off, home made?

Cam