LONG RANGE RESULTS

[John T]

International F Class are Long Range disciplines, 800, 900 and 1000 yards (700, 800 and 900 meters).

A record of Results at Queen's and District Meetings at which at least three Long Ranges are shot would be a useful tool in the selection process.

FCWC Teams have a final Squad of 10 Shooters plus 6 Officials. There is no limit on the size of the "Touring" Team from which the Squad is nominated, THREE DAYS before the Event.

Australia needs to ramp up to its competitors and send a minimum of 12 Shooters to Connaught, in both categories.

Here are the scores for the top 15 of 27 shooters in Open at the National. Four ranges, 800, 900; 900, 1000. Possible 240.40

237.14 Rod Davies
236.17 Jenni Hausler
236.16 Craig McGowan
236.16 Cameron McEwan
236.12 Alan Fraser
235.21 John Tracey
235.18 Barry Lewis
235.15 Julie McEwan
234.18 John Peters
233.16 Spencer Dunstall
233.12 Keith Hills
233.11 Steve Rigby
232.17 Lowell Tillack
231.15 Brett Bunyan
231.15 Lindsay Crombie

Jason may honor us with the Results for F/TR and for Standard.

John T.
9-7-14

[jasmay]

John, that's an interesting way to look at it, certainly a good way to keep an eye on how we are progressing.

I am not sure how to compile the FTR and FS results, straight off the top of my head I would say it would not be wise to mix the 2 for a top 15, reason being I know at least the top 8 shooter in FS were all using a pedestal for this reason we simply cannot roll the 2 together.

That being the case the field of FTR shooters in the queens have the only scores we can use in this instance.

There are some other events NQ queens and other state championships that I will endeavor to compile over the next few weeks.

Nice work coming up with the idea!!

[John T]

Jason.

Pleased at your response.

I always intended that there would be two sets of Results, one for F/TR and one for Standard, your birth mother.

Can I say to F/TR, be inclusive. From a distance, I can see that you can shoot Standard and, when the time comes, you can work up to F/TR.

You know this is correct.

John T.
10-7-14

[ShaneG]

Added some of the F /TR results from the NRAA Queens as per above.
800 +2x900 + 1000 = possible 240.
S.Green 234.11
M.Fairbairn 232.15
S.Sharp 230.14
J.Mayers 229.18
M.Willment 226.13

[Shobby]

These are referred to as Palma ranges not Long Range F Class. Long Range F Class is 1000, 1100 & 1200 yards and is alive and well in Australia and shot along side Match Rifle.

[Cameron Mc]

These are referred to as Palma ranges not Long Range F Class. Long Range F Class is 1000, 1100 & 1200 yards and is alive and well in Australia and shot along side Match Rifle.

What John is referring to here is related to the World F Class Championships.
This is contested over long ranges, 8/9/1000yds.

Cam

[AlanF]

...A record of Results at Queen's and District Meetings at which at least three Long Ranges are shot would be a useful tool in the selection process.

FCWC Teams have a final Squad of 10 Shooters plus 6 Officials. There is no limit on the size of the "Touring" Team from which the Squad is nominated, THREE DAYS before the Event.

Australia needs to ramp up to its competitors and send a minimum of 12 Shooters to Connaught, in both categories...

John,

Shouldn't we be waiting for the Captains of the teams to be appointed before talking about selection? And I would not expect the team selection process to give much weight to individual shooting performances more than 3 years prior to the event. Very few people will be using the same barrels then as now for example. Its a good thing to get people thinking about their own aspirations, but the current priority is to find a willing and able Captain to get started on planning all things including the selection process. Do you know what the timetable is for the Captain's appointment?

Alan

[ratshot]

And the point of this is.??

[jasmay]

If nothing else, its nice to see how you compare against the others at the top of the long range boards....

I don't think Johns intention is to steer the ideas of the selection process, just offer thoughts.

Personally I think its a good thing keeping an eye on those at the top in the LR section of shoots.

[RAVEN]

Shobby is correct Long range F-Class are the match rifle ranges

Paul the point is John is showing us were north is as opposed to Captain Jack Sparrows compass it's where ever you what it to be

[RAVEN]

John & Jason you are more than welcome to come to SA and shoot the Palma competition that the FCASA members have organised NOW that would be a test.

[John T]

This proposed recording of information is intended to stand alone as a continuous record of Long Range results from major events. The primary benefit to all F Class shooters is to see, from year to year, who did what. The individual will decide how to use the information.

It was laziness on my part to limit the results. There should be a complete record containing all results in the three categories.

Notwithstanding that the NRAA has not maintained the Ranking System, the preferred place for these records is the NRAA site. It could be set up and maintained by volunteers, including me.

A spinoff could be that an individual or a group could use this raw material to develop a performance indicator. That is not the purpose of this record.

Another spinoff is that the information could be a useful tool in the team selection process. (An unwise man wrote "would" instead of "could".) The decision would be at discretion of the Captain.

The next FCWC may be 3+ years away but the selection process starts, at the latest in 13 months, when Shooter and Coach Nominations close in early August 2015.

Alan, a Captain may be interested in a Coach's performances at the Long Ranges.

Alan, what do you mean by "the current priority is to find a willing and able Captain"? After it's February 2015 Meeting, the NRAA Board will call for Nominations for Captain for each of the Open and F/TR Teams. The Board makes the selections. There is no rank-and-file involvement, other to encourage individuals we know to nominate.

John T.
10-7-14

[jasmay]

Shobby is correct Long range F-Class are the match rifle ranges

Paul the point is John is showing us were north is as opposed to Captain Jack Sparrows compass it's where ever you what it to be

Darn it, I thought I knew what the sport was I was shooting...

Can someone please give me a good run down, cause now I am just confused?

Fclass, on a world platform is shot under ICFRA rules, ICFRA targets go up to 1000yds, not beyond. Can someone explain exactly what the LR fclass is, as the way I understand it 800,900 & 1000yds is long range 300 is short and everything between is mid range.

Is there a world platform where beyond 1000yds is shot under ICFRA, or is this another largely Australian system such as F-Standard.

Confused.... Again....

[AlanF]

John,

Queens results are maintained on this website, although long range only results would need to be extracted. See http://www.ozfclass.com/results/default.html.

Neither the former NRAA ranking system, nor the current ozfclass.com system (see http://www.ozfclass.com/rankings/default.html) distinguish between short and long range performances. Nor do the NRAA grading average calculations.

So I guess there is a place for some sort of rating system for 700m+ shoots. Once the NRAA results system is fully up and running, that may be the best place to get results from OPMs.

Alan

[AlanF]

Is there a world platform where beyond 1000yds is shot under ICFRA, or is this another largely Australian system such as F-Standard...

Jason,

The Match Rifle people (in Australia only I believe) have an F-Class (Open) category who shoot the same distances as they do (1000, 1100, 1200yds or 900, 1000, 1100m), usually 15 or 20 shots at each distance over 2 days. It does not use an ICFRA target, but the older 2002 8-900yd target at all ranges. It is growing reasonably quickly, to the stage where there are interstate team shoots. Recently a LR F/TR category has been introduced - not sure of the details on that.

Alan