New Shooter, F Class Information
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New Shooter, F Class Information
Hey fellas,
Just signed up yesterday after having my first shoot on the weekend and have a few questions. I live in Brisbane so Belmont will be the range i shoot at..
I was talking to the fellas on Saturday about which factory rifle would be a good starting point for f class. I've had my eye on the Savage 10fp HS model thinking it would be a good choice but after talking with them it seems i need a minimum of 28" barrel to push 155's supersonic to 1000y.
Firstly, i didnt even know there was a restriction on bullet weight in F Standard which seems silly to me. This pretty much puts all factory offerings except the high end savages in the bin for F Standard.
I had a plan to buy the 10fphs, which i could shoot in F Standard, then buy another barrel in 7mm or 6.5mm which i could swap out via the barrel nut and shoot F Open too.
Is there any category i could shoot a .308 with normal length barrel in? I have seen Match Rifle but that prohibits the use of front rests?? Am i going to have to rebarrel an action to start shooting. I have a m77 Ruger at home in .243, would i be better off putting a new barrel on that?
Any suggestions a rifle or a class?
Cheers.
Just signed up yesterday after having my first shoot on the weekend and have a few questions. I live in Brisbane so Belmont will be the range i shoot at..
I was talking to the fellas on Saturday about which factory rifle would be a good starting point for f class. I've had my eye on the Savage 10fp HS model thinking it would be a good choice but after talking with them it seems i need a minimum of 28" barrel to push 155's supersonic to 1000y.
Firstly, i didnt even know there was a restriction on bullet weight in F Standard which seems silly to me. This pretty much puts all factory offerings except the high end savages in the bin for F Standard.
I had a plan to buy the 10fphs, which i could shoot in F Standard, then buy another barrel in 7mm or 6.5mm which i could swap out via the barrel nut and shoot F Open too.
Is there any category i could shoot a .308 with normal length barrel in? I have seen Match Rifle but that prohibits the use of front rests?? Am i going to have to rebarrel an action to start shooting. I have a m77 Ruger at home in .243, would i be better off putting a new barrel on that?
Any suggestions a rifle or a class?
Cheers.
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Savage is a great option
You just need to work out if you prefer bipod set up or pedestal
BTW F/TR the new kid in town allows any weight projectile.
The Savage F/TR is design specifically for this discipline
I wouldn’t bother re-barreling the Ruger you could just shoot the Ruger at club in F-Class Open and learn about the sport and accuracy technique and what equipment is competitive and what’s not.
Depending on the twist of rifling in the current barrel will determine what projectile you could use.
Then purchase a savage Mod 12 or build custom or purchase one that is a known performer.
Don’t get too wound up about 1000yd it’s not shot all the time and maybe a few times a year at best.
Good Luck and all the best
RB
You just need to work out if you prefer bipod set up or pedestal
BTW F/TR the new kid in town allows any weight projectile.
The Savage F/TR is design specifically for this discipline
I wouldn’t bother re-barreling the Ruger you could just shoot the Ruger at club in F-Class Open and learn about the sport and accuracy technique and what equipment is competitive and what’s not.
Depending on the twist of rifling in the current barrel will determine what projectile you could use.
Then purchase a savage Mod 12 or build custom or purchase one that is a known performer.
Don’t get too wound up about 1000yd it’s not shot all the time and maybe a few times a year at best.
Good Luck and all the best
RB
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hi Brocko,
At this stage I would suggest shooting F Standard.
F Standard is graded, F Open is not.
Switch barrel rifles can be good, ie 1 action, 1 stock, but you will probably need 2 scopes, unless you can put up with the different zeros (elevation and windage)
Keep things simple, learn to shoot one calibre, 1 load, 1 projectile to the best of your ability. Then have a play with other calibres.
There are a lot of blokes and gals out there shooting 2nd hand omarks, set up with mid price scopes and doing exceptionally well.
As long as you get a rifle that shoots reasonably, most points are won or lost on wind reading skills and shooting technical skills.
Cheers
Danny
At this stage I would suggest shooting F Standard.
F Standard is graded, F Open is not.
Switch barrel rifles can be good, ie 1 action, 1 stock, but you will probably need 2 scopes, unless you can put up with the different zeros (elevation and windage)
Keep things simple, learn to shoot one calibre, 1 load, 1 projectile to the best of your ability. Then have a play with other calibres.
There are a lot of blokes and gals out there shooting 2nd hand omarks, set up with mid price scopes and doing exceptionally well.
As long as you get a rifle that shoots reasonably, most points are won or lost on wind reading skills and shooting technical skills.
Cheers
Danny
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Thanks for your replies guys. Shooting F Standard sounds like a good idea to me, concentrating on the one load is good advice. I can reload for FS? As this is something iam looking forward to doing also. My only restriction is the projectiles? Is this correct?
If anyone does know of any good old rifles for sale let me know. What twist rate should i be looking for? And are the eddystone m17 rifles any good.
Cheers, Brock.
If anyone does know of any good old rifles for sale let me know. What twist rate should i be looking for? And are the eddystone m17 rifles any good.
Cheers, Brock.
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http://www.nraa.com.au/pubs/SSRs.pdf
Check out the standard shooting rules for details regarding ammo and reloading. Yes you can reload with the prescibed powder and projectile for F Std.
Cheers
John S
www.nswfclass.com.au
Check out the standard shooting rules for details regarding ammo and reloading. Yes you can reload with the prescibed powder and projectile for F Std.
Cheers
John S
www.nswfclass.com.au
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Wakey7 wrote:How to loose a new shooter in one foul swoop. Take them to 1000 yards and let them get their arse kicked.DO get wound up about 1000yd. The short-range mucking around is just practice for proper shooting.
Yes we do hear the "hard on new shooters" line when the 1000yd shoots go on the syllabus, but its usually brought up by the experienced shooters . Seriously, we certainly don't encourage those having their first or second shoot to come on days of 800yd or more, and at 1000yds, usually those who need it are coached. And I'd add that we have twice as many 300yd shoots as 1000. I consider that we're lucky to have a 1000 yd range, and should use it fully. It seems to help our shooters when we go to Queens and need to shoot 1000yds.
Alan
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Alan,
I think I know what you're saying.
Up in Brisbane, Peter Phillips is running a CATTS program (Come & Try Target Shooting) which has successfully introduced quite a number of committed shooters into our sport. Peter breaks shooters in at 300 metres away from prying eyes, but as soon as they have confidence, they're out shooting (coached) at whatever distance the Thursday or weekend club has on the program. He had two of that group shooting in the recent QRA Queens.
Barry is undoubtedly being a tad facetious, but by & large 1000 yards has the same characteristic as the rest, being 100 yards further than the next shortest.
John
I think I know what you're saying.
Up in Brisbane, Peter Phillips is running a CATTS program (Come & Try Target Shooting) which has successfully introduced quite a number of committed shooters into our sport. Peter breaks shooters in at 300 metres away from prying eyes, but as soon as they have confidence, they're out shooting (coached) at whatever distance the Thursday or weekend club has on the program. He had two of that group shooting in the recent QRA Queens.
Barry is undoubtedly being a tad facetious, but by & large 1000 yards has the same characteristic as the rest, being 100 yards further than the next shortest.
John
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I must be wierd as I had my first F-Class shoot at 1000yds and when I started TR, it was at 700yds. I loved it!! Its what kept me coming back for more!!!! But id been shooting for a few years shooting 22 and alike.
Id be soo happy if I could shoot 600, 800, 900, 1000 every time I went to the range
Id be soo happy if I could shoot 600, 800, 900, 1000 every time I went to the range
Shaun aka 'Quick'
Yanchep, Western Australia
308 Win F/TR & F-S
7mm F-Open Shooter.
Yanchep, Western Australia
308 Win F/TR & F-S
7mm F-Open Shooter.
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