PeteFox wrote:Bart wrote:PeteFox wrote:
The NRAA insurer is not your friend, and the insurer won't cover you if you are doing the wrong thing, whether that is through incompetence or ignorance.
Pete
Thanks for clearing that point up Pete
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PeteFox wrote:Bart wrote:PeteFox wrote:
The NRAA insurer is not your friend, and the insurer won't cover you if you are doing the wrong thing, whether that is through incompetence or ignorance.
Pete
PeteFox wrote:Bart wrote:PeteFox wrote:
But this is not just safety as it was by following conduct under the SSR's. If I am understanding correctly the RO will become responsible for example manual handling; if a member injures themself while loading a target into a target frame?
Shouldn't the shooting safety, even at club level, take the priority?
Sorry but we must be on different planets.
Since when did safety not extend to everything that happens on a rifle range. If the RO is in charge on the range, then he is in charge of everything that happens on the range.
If you are you thinking that the only safety we should be concerned with is getting shot! Well the courts don't agree with you.
The point is: the RO is the responsible person on a range. If the RO accepts the responsibility he also accepts the risk - you can't have one without the other.
The RO is in charge............. of well..........everything.
The new course isn't adding to the risk/responsibility, it's actually pointing out that the RO has always been responsible and has always borne the risk, but the RO didn't know it.
The point of the course is to make everyone aware of the risks and responsibilities and to show them how to mitigate them. If you do your best within your training then you have no worries.
Ignorance of the liabilities won't prevent someone trying to take your house in the event of a claimable event.
The NRAA insurer is not your friend, and the insurer won't cover you if you are doing the wrong thing, whether that is through incompetence or ignorance.
Pete
lonerider43 wrote:and this all came about because ?.....
my understanding is incompetence on the larger crowded ranges where safety and common sense dont seem to come into play.
in smaller clubs like ours ,we look after each other,if someone breaks the rules or does something dumb,everybody says something.
to my knowledge there hasnt been an accident or incident on our range since its building.,can the big city ranges say that ?
maybe those bigger clubs need better RO's,out here,its only going to turn people away from applying.too much BS to be bothered.
and that is going to hurt nraa,when country ranges start shutting from no fund raising OPM's due to no RO's,who looses ?
ssaa are itching for more ranges to take over.
lonerider43 wrote:and this all came about because ?.....
my understanding is incompetence on the larger crowded ranges where safety and common sense dont seem to come into play.
in smaller clubs like ours ,we look after each other,if someone breaks the rules or does something dumb,everybody says something.
to my knowledge there hasnt been an accident or incident on our range since its building.,can the big city ranges say that ?
maybe those bigger clubs need better RO's,out here,its only going to turn people away from applying.too much BS to be bothered.
and that is going to hurt nraa,when country ranges start shutting from no fund raising OPM's due to no RO's,who looses ?
ssaa are itching for more ranges to take over.
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